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View Poll Results: If you had to reroll your shaman, what race would you choose?
I have played a Barbarian shaman; would reroll Barbarian again 18 13.53%
I have played a Barbarian shaman; would reroll Iksar 5 3.76%
I have played a Barbarian shaman; would reroll Ogre 3 2.26%
I have played a Barbarian shaman; would reroll Troll 6 4.51%
I have played an Iksar shaman; would reroll Barbarian 1 0.75%
I have played an Iksar shaman; would reroll Iksar again 20 15.04%
I have played an Iksar shaman; would reroll Ogre 4 3.01%
I have played an Iksar shaman; would reroll Troll 4 3.01%
I have played an Ogre shaman; would reroll Barbarian 3 2.26%
I have played an Ogre shaman; would reroll Iksar 5 3.76%
I have played an Ogre shaman; would reroll Ogre again 19 14.29%
I have played an Ogre shaman; would reroll Troll 8 6.02%
I have played a Troll shaman; would reroll Barbarian 0 0%
I have played a Troll shaman; would reroll Iksar 2 1.50%
I have played a Troll shaman; would reroll Ogre 3 2.26%
I have played a Troll shaman; would reroll Troll again 32 24.06%
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Old 01-31-2016, 08:14 PM
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The only class/race combination that can solo all the same mobs I can with the same gear I have are also Ogre Shamans.
would need some proof for this statement to have any water.
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Old 01-31-2016, 08:15 PM
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Troll no question I have played probably every shaman race except frogs anywhere from 50 to 100 and would always go troll again.
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Old 02-01-2016, 12:19 AM
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Troll of course. I have an Ogre too, and he gets *interrupted* - a lot. It is NOT Frontal Interruption Immunity. If it were I'd consider it...but would probably still go with regen.

And the torpor argument is silly - nobody runs around bard-clicking torpor/canni all the time. You want a Fungi. You want Regrowth. All shammys want the most Regen they can possibly get.
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Old 02-01-2016, 12:26 AM
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Troll of course. I have an Ogre too, and he gets *interrupted* - a lot. It is NOT Frontal Interruption Immunity.
Side note, if you make a pve shaman on red, the stun immunity is a hindrance, you cant duck out of a cast, so if you get interrupted during a cast, you have to run around and wait for spell to fire and get inevitably interrupted.

While barb, gets stunned, and booted out of the cast. The stun tends to be a lot shorter than the duration of most spells.

buuuut that said, every once and a while you'll bash a ogre trying to gate and he'll get it off and you're like curse you fsu!
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Old 02-01-2016, 09:27 AM
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One thing I did not even think about for the Iksar is certain endgame items that they're the only shamans who can use. For example..
http://wiki.project1999.com/Robe_of_the_Azure_Sky

That is a awesome robe that barbs, trolls and ogres can't wear.

Then there are items that aren't endgame but still not terrible, like..
http://wiki.project1999.com/Jarsath_Scale_Leggings

Ogres and Trolls can't use them but Iksar and Barbs can.

This whole which race can use which gear as a shaman has put a real spin on things for me. I'm not sure anymore.
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Old 02-01-2016, 12:55 PM
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The risk reward for iksar is the best as far as gearing goes.

Risk you are an ugly lizard

Reward you can get roask and a de mask from fm event and be best looking shaman possible. A robe wearing DE
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Old 02-01-2016, 02:27 PM
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The results of this very poll scientifically belie this assertion.

Barbarian:
Out of 23 shamans, 11 of them (48%) would reroll. Of those 11 that would reroll, 9 of them would pick racial regen, 2 of them would pick FSI over racial regen.

Ogre:
Out of 18 shamans, 7 (39%) of them would reroll. Of those 7 that would reroll, none would pick barbarian. All of them would pick racial regen over FSI.

Troll:
Out of 22 shamans, 4 (18%) of them would reroll. Of those 4, 1 would pick the other race with racial regen. 3 of them (14%) would pick FSI over racial regen.

Iksar
Out of 15 shamans, 3 (20%) of them would reroll. Of those 3, 2 would pick the other race with racial regen. 1 of them (6%) would pick FSI over racial regen.

Of the 37 shamans who have racial regen, only 4 of them would prefer to have FSI.
Of the 41 shamans who lack racial regen, 16 of them would prefer to have racial regen.
Of the 18 shamans who have FSI, 7 of them would prefer to have the regen.

Compiled data, who wants to be playing what?

Barbarian: 12
Ogre: 17
Iksar:18
Troll: 31

It would appear that the results of this poll (scientifically or otherwise) are consistent with my experiences with shaman satisfaction broken down by race. The race least satisfied are barbarians, followed by ogres. Trolls have the highest satisfaction, iksars 2nd highest.
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Old 02-03-2016, 11:12 PM
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People are seriously underestimating how shitty -20 Fire resistance for Trolls is. Like that should be a massive turnoff, throw the biggest XP penalty on top and it's even worse. Sure they have Regen but so do Iksars and Iksars aren't fucked like Trolls.

Ogre is the master race hands down. I literally rolled all 3 races for Shaman and it's just stupid how much better Ogre plays. Their stats just make them hit so hard and so often it's like you're playing 1-10 as any other race with Druid buffs.
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Old 02-03-2016, 11:16 PM
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@Zill - Velious is out,. resist gear is here.
Edit: There are far more resistance gear options then there were in the kunark era. Any negative racial related stat or resistance doesn't much matter at level 60 with end game gear.
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Old 02-03-2016, 11:18 PM
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People are seriously underestimating how shitty -20 Fire resistance for Trolls is. Like that should be a massive turnoff, throw the biggest XP penalty on top and it's even worse. Sure they have Regen but so do Iksars and Iksars aren't fucked like Trolls.

Ogre is the master race hands down. I literally rolled all 3 races for Shaman and it's just stupid how much better Ogre plays. Their stats just make them hit so hard and so often it's like you're playing 1-10 as any other race with Druid buffs.
good point considering an item with +20 fire would be worth a lot of plat, but I guess not if it had -18 regen on it though heh

But it is a valid concern if you want to stack 250 fire for pvp hehe

Most pvp players love troll though, i think its the look + regen idk
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