Name and Shame - Normal (Bard)

[Danger]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You never have a reason to peek at corpses you didn't kill or your group didn't kill. 0 tolerance as it should be. Killer gets to determine value, not the ninja looter.

Originally Posted by Widan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yikes that is the complete opposite of the server rules. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with them.

Correct. If you did not kill a mob you are not permitted to loot anything from it without the person who killed its permission

I feel like I am being trolled here and took the bait but.. you guys can't be serious. Is that really a blue/green rule?

[Widan]

Yea there was a big thread on general forum about it with GMs weighing in. Looting a corpse that isn't yours they consider ninja looting regardless of the timer.

[Danger]

Originally Posted by Widan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea there was a big thread on general forum about it with GMs weighing in. Looting a corpse that isn't yours they consider ninja looting regardless of the timer.

cringing irl

I'm not just posting that for effect, I am literally cringing.

[oldhead]

Originally Posted by Widan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea there was a big thread on general forum about it with GMs weighing in. Looting a corpse that isn't yours they consider ninja looting regardless of the timer.

Hard for me to believe. Can you link this rule?

If that is the rule just get rid of the timer. Keep corpses locked.

[oldhead]

wait we are not allow to loot unlocked corpses? Even junk loot like gnoll fangs?

If that is the case just perma lock corpses please. If not the case then wtf.

[Kron]

I totally get the posters frustration. We had a guy who was been vulture in Crushbone one night. Handling large pulls from Bridge and Task while this guy would sit back and keep checking bodies till he find an open one because we were too busy trying to CC and down Legos.

To add to his sly tactics he would pull Cents out from us who had been Mezzed by our Ench's to help manage adds.

Try chasing him out and even reported him but he kept up his antics for about an hour before moving on.

[Khorza]

If that's a rule then it's a terrible one and no one follows it.

The corpse timer is literally a mechanic of the game implemented by the developers. The corpse opens up for anyone to loot after 2 minutes. That is obviously the intended game mechanic. If you can't loot it within that time, and no one feels like locking the corpse down, then that's too bad.

I will continue to loot open corpses, as it was intended by the original game designers. Not all laws are just laws.

[senna]

Originally Posted by Khorza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that's a rule then it's a terrible one and no one follows it.

The corpse timer is literally a mechanic of the game implemented by the developers. The corpse opens up for anyone to loot after 2 minutes. That is obviously the intended game mechanic. If you can't loot it within that time, and no one feels like locking the corpse down, then that's too bad.

I will continue to loot open corpses, as it was intended by the original game designers. Not all laws are just laws.

If thats your defense aganst the rule lawyers then you might as well cut your losses now and quit playing on here lmao [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

these people will literally make up their own narrative of why things are the way they are, just look at jimjams fictional novel on open corpses a few posts up.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by senna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

these people will literally make up their own narrative of why things are the way they are, just look at jimjams fictional novel on open corpses a few posts up.

I was describing how 'public corpses' work here on p1999, not the original designers intent.

Obviously the hardcoded mechanic is anyone can loot a public corpse, and you are right if someone looted an item off an open corpse because no one locked it then just tfb.

What i was describing here is the consequences of the rule as enforced here, which is make sure you have permission to loot a corpse (whether by paying for loot rights, being present for a raid, or politely asking.

It's not too hard to ask if you can loot someones rots, hell you could even have a hotkey if you make a habbit of it. Hell, I was asking if i could loot rotting ruined pelts; nobody cares about that, but its just part of the server dynamic.

[Khorza]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not too hard to ask if you can loot someones rots

Sure but now you're introducing a bunch of problems that never existed in the first place.

How do you determine who "owns" that corpse? There's nothing in the game to allow you to do this, and just because someone is sitting by a corpse doesn't mean that they killed the mob. There's no way to ensure that the person allowing you to loot a corpse ever had authority to do such a thing in the first place.

Investigating the whos, whats, whys, whens, and hows of corpse ownership also takes an investment of time beyond just looting the corpse. What if the person doesn't respond? What if you can't track down the owner? What if someone else just loots it while you're performing your investigation?

Now you've turned one of the most simple and agreed on parts of the game into an inquisition.