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Old 11-10-2020, 10:47 AM
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I have also been surprised by the amount of trans infighting that takes place in forumquest. Some of the more brutal keyboard battles I have seen lately have come from trans elves. I mean, even the crazy ass political threads seem more civil.
I never really thought about it, but I could see why trans people might be drawn to role playing games though.
This is because as a group "Trans" (and I use that term very loosely and all encompassing of a large general group, so inclusive that no ones feelings get hurt, right??) are very insecure people lol. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a lot of reasons they are insecure, good and bad. Yet, try and get them to agree on it and you will just wind up with some weird internalized scream of consciousness from several people blending and melding into what I would like to say 'dysphoria' is in the trans, new age, sense, not the classical meaning of the word, and oh my.

Does everything need a preface and a post analysis so that no one impulsively takes it personally? Talk amongst pro-or-anti-trans-in-or-out groups is bound to need all kinds of feelings and thoughts. By default.

A lot of "Trans" people need help. For sure. Just not online on this forum help. The media has also damaged any hope of trans people having cohesives tribes all of their own that 'makes sense' for a majority of them. Example, something trans is generally automatically kink shamed, because of the connotation of '**x type of *** pornstar'. Which god love em, most of them are trans too but they wouldn't admit it lol.

It's not something that should be publicly discussed on a video game forum, yet that event, makes it brought up over and over again (and no it's not my fault I didn't do it) it happened everywhere in media online. People shouldn't live in shame and hide but there are better places to have deep dive discussions about it. Hence OP is possibly trollin here by kind of even engaging in the topic. (But I will always give people the benefit of the doubt and even engage with trolls to a degree). Because it's fun to engage in the free market place of ideas. Essentially.

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Is this meme from when the left cancelled Contrapoints?
Yeah lol, that's why the left clings to the narrative(s) provided by people who aren't even trans or "lefty" themselves, lol. A lot of copypasta.

This is a topic that nears impossible to be PC about. If someone cares at all about the truth beyond the cultural memes.

Anyway, there's only two of them (the evil trannies) that consistently bring up trans memes and topics. The rest is straight guys ribbing @ them to engage them in forum drama. Because "She's just bored".

Also Imperiouskitten does not look like contrapoints lol, both are pretty and have their own thing going on. Contrapoints is some of the best, most entertaining, social commentary out there. Or it was. I don't know I haven't checked her channel in like 5 years.

The people who are attacking Imperiouskitten are just massively jellious diehard grifters, sadists, and puppyrescuers. And are acting out of a sense of shame, self entitlement, egotism, and rage at not being in control over their own lives, s_elves_.
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Old 11-10-2020, 11:11 AM
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This is because as a group "Trans" (and I use that term very loosely and all encompassing of a large general group, so inclusive that no ones feelings get hurt, right??) are very insecure people lol.

News flash to anyone out there. You're not unique because you're insecure. All humans have insecurities. I'll share with you my favorite saying

You're unique, just like everyone else.

Get over yourself, no one cares about your feelings. Nor should you be too concerned with others. Improve yourself, move on and achieve. God I can't stand this soft living that is taking over society.
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Old 11-10-2020, 11:12 AM
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News flash to anyone out there. You're not unique because you're insecure. All humans have insecurities. I'll share with you my favorite saying

You're unique, just like everyone else

Get over yourself, no one cares about your feelings. Nor should you be too concerned with others. Improve yourself, move on and achieve. God I can't stand this soft living that is taking over society.
yeah, fair point, can i say trans people tend to lean more towards insecurity? tho?

Anyway excellent advice, regardless.
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Old 11-10-2020, 11:14 AM
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This is a topic that nears impossible to be PC about.
Then--don't try to be. Say it direct. If you can't say what you mean, how are you supposed to mean what you say?

You are right in that insecure people tend to be easily-offended. I get annoyed at having to preface comments with half a dozen disclaimers so people can figure out that they shouldn't take offense from neutral discussion or from people having differing opinions about something.

You said above that trans is a poor term. I sort of disagree; it seems to serve its purpose well enough for want of anything better. It is something you and I, for example, can agree on, so it's useful for facilitating a conversation such as this one instead of bogging down and arguing over who's a woman and who isn't. I know what I see, someone else doesn't want to see himself the same way I see him, so a neutral word in the middle seems useful in that sense.

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Old 11-10-2020, 11:19 AM
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Then--don't try to be. Say it direct. If you can't say what you mean, how are you supposed to mean what you say?

You are right in that insecure people tend to be easily-offended. I get annoyed at having to preface comments with half a dozen disclaimers so people can figure out that they shouldn't take offense from neutral discussion or from people having differing opinions about something.

You said above that trans is a poor term. I sort of disagree; it seems to serve its purpose well enough for want of anything better. It is something you and I, for example, can agree on, so it's useful for facilitating a conversation such as this one instead of bogging down and arguing over who's a woman and who isn't. I know what I see, someone else doesn't want to see himself the same way I see him, so a neutral word in the middle seems useful in that sense.

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Yeah but there is a huge difference and gulf between someone who bothered to medically transition, speaks like not a dudevoice, and like for example 'philosopher trans people' or social activist trans people. Or that 1 crazy troll who keeps sueing beautypagenets because they where disqualified for being the wrong sex.

I hate the fucking word, it's nothing but grief because inevitably retards (and there's a lot of them) use it as a fucking god damn bludgeon.
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Old 11-10-2020, 01:24 PM
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This is because as a group "Trans" (and I use that term very loosely and all encompassing of a large general group, so inclusive that no ones feelings get hurt, right??) are very insecure people lol. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a lot of reasons they are insecure, good and bad. Yet, try and get them to agree on it and you will just wind up with some weird internalized scream of consciousness from several people blending and melding into what I would like to say 'dysphoria' is in the trans, new age, sense, not the classical meaning of the word, and oh my.

Does everything need a preface and a post analysis so that no one impulsively takes it personally? Talk amongst pro-or-anti-trans-in-or-out groups is bound to need all kinds of feelings and thoughts. By default.

A lot of "Trans" people need help. For sure. Just not online on this forum help. The media has also damaged any hope of trans people having cohesives tribes all of their own that 'makes sense' for a majority of them. Example, something trans is generally automatically kink shamed, because of the connotation of '**x type of *** pornstar'. Which god love em, most of them are trans too but they wouldn't admit it lol.

It's not something that should be publicly discussed on a video game forum, yet that event, makes it brought up over and over again (and no it's not my fault I didn't do it) it happened everywhere in media online. People shouldn't live in shame and hide but there are better places to have deep dive discussions about it. Hence OP is possibly trollin here by kind of even engaging in the topic. (But I will always give people the benefit of the doubt and even engage with trolls to a degree). Because it's fun to engage in the free market place of ideas. Essentially.



Yeah lol, that's why the left clings to the narrative(s) provided by people who aren't even trans or "lefty" themselves, lol. A lot of copypasta.

This is a topic that nears impossible to be PC about. If someone cares at all about the truth beyond the cultural memes.

Anyway, there's only two of them (the evil trannies) that consistently bring up trans memes and topics. The rest is straight guys ribbing @ them to engage them in forum drama. Because "She's just bored".

Also Imperiouskitten does not look like contrapoints lol, both are pretty and have their own thing going on. Contrapoints is some of the best, most entertaining, social commentary out there. Or it was. I don't know I haven't checked her channel in like 5 years.

The people who are attacking Imperiouskitten are just massively jellious diehard grifters, sadists, and puppyrescuers. And are acting out of a sense of shame, self entitlement, egotism, and rage at not being in control over their own lives, s_elves_.
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Old 11-10-2020, 12:13 PM
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For me now it's autonomic, reflex, I don't even think about sounding "like a girl". I used to tho on the way there. But I also think I had some advantages. Like not heavily identifying with my male siblings/parents/peers and so not mimicking them to the same degree initially.

[REDACTED] did not sound like a girl the last time I talked to her. But I hope she's made some good progress.

Go to a football game cheer your team at max volume for 8 hrs in a bikini without your voice cracking then get back to me before I accept you as a woman, *flexes neck*.

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On a side note, for those that don't have the chops for it naturally, there is also voice feminization surgery. I hear sometimes people get fucked up, mute, bad things happen in some percent of the cases however.

It's not that important to sound like Emma Watson tho. So don't fixate on it.

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Folklore says that the real Hell is being trapped inside a small room with a born-again Christian, A Pot Head, A Vegan, A Trans..

A constant verbal assault about who is who and what they do.
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Old 11-10-2020, 12:42 PM
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Yea I am to a point where I need to put voice practice into my daily routine. I tend to fall more into the androgynous pitch range. Which will sound androgynous even if the secondary feminine characteristics are there. Hardest part for me is that internally it feels very strange to raise to feminine range.
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Old 11-10-2020, 12:45 PM
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Let's not derail this important discussion. Back on topic: why are there 5 of you transes posting here?
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Old 11-10-2020, 12:45 PM
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My best advice is just do it even if you think you sound horrible. Keep recording book passages over and over until you get your throat/neck/head/skull/face/musclecords all the parts to get used to it. Eventually it will require less and less effort and it will be easier to work on the minutia like, how you pronounce words and inflect. Then you'll just have a new pattern that seems more familiar and comfortable to you. Then when you feel more comfortable only talk like you want to in public and fuck whatever other people think you sound like.

A lot of other advice just says to pick one aspect and work on it. I know some people who swear by inflection being the most important thing, but whatever. I sounded horrible until I worked on the physical training.

The real serious question is can you "sneeze like a girl" with a big god bless u random sneeze cuz that is pro imo. I did earlier and I was like woa how the fuck did that happen? (I think it was just practice and natural comfort with how I wanted to be).
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