Waking the Sleeper is a **** move

[coki]

Originally Posted by Delekhan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we wanted to have an honest conversation regarding the Warders, consider for a moment that they are a 6day +-24hr respawn, meaning it's a 48-hour window. Now I don't know about you guys but my socks aren't that big. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So with the above, it should be clear that competitive Warders is obviously not a long-term endeavour. That leaves you with rotations. With that in mind, how do you prevent 18 disaffected or competitive Everquest players of any guild to adhere to such an arrangement? Ok, don't kill Ventani ever again, and that will work for a time (the current approach). So what happens when there are 300 or 400 keys on the server and it's trivial to rally 45 people to kill Ventani? Waking is inevitable and we've barely been able to keep it asleep as is.

I hope that gives some insight into the matter. Emotions are clearly at an all-time high, but there's far more to this than pixels. Banter aside, it would be helpful to understand that you can only control this situation for so long. Eventually either you wake it as a guild or someone does it for you. It does not matter what guild you belong to, if it were in Kingdom in this position, they would be facing the very same issues.

That's about all I will say on this matter. I respect everyone's point of view.

Sorry everyone we can't trust our own guild members to not be dicks and secretly wake it behind our back? Give me a break! and stop blowing smoke up the entire servers ass

[Ooloo]

Honestly I kinda respect ST for not waking it sooner. It's definitely part of the game, and like it or not they earned it. On the other hand, they've been kinda floundering lately so it feels kind of anticlimactic, like oh hey yeah I guess let's do it now.

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly I kinda respect ST for not waking it sooner. It's definitely part of the game, and like it or not they earned it. On the other hand, they've been kinda floundering lately so it feels kind of anticlimactic, like oh hey yeah I guess let's do it now.

Nobody else is even close to waking him. ST could farm this shit for longer. My guess is that if true that they're about to wake the old bugger that they're just tired of raiding and did what they set out to do. Once you got your masks, primals and fungi robes u don't give a shit.

[Phraxas]

That or people realize, socking 3 golems on a 3 day +/- 24hrs, 3 warders on a 6 day +/- 24hrs, key mobs, Vulaks, Doze. Just isn’t healthy nor is it fun for anyone. Then you ask or say, well rotate them. And my question is why? Why would anyone want to deal with a raid leadership that pulls the things Anarke and McGanahan have in this recent era.

Pre Velious I was actually asking if we’d rotate warders, and after the continuous “GMs don’t count seconds.” Yeli stalls, LTK exit trains (don’t get it twisted ST has done things also) the classic “control your raid mob” I don’t feel bad for kingdom, they chose to ignore key mobs for 7 months, and when they decided to compete the Kill 1 Concede 2 atmosphere began and just wasn’t pretty.

**Disclaimer** These our opinions of the author alone, please take them as such

[adruidarkly]

Originally Posted by Phraxas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That or people realize, socking 3 golems on a 3 day +/- 24hrs, 3 warders on a 6 day +/- 24hrs, key mobs, Vulaks, Doze. Just isn’t healthy nor is it fun for anyone. Then you ask or say, well rotate them. And my question is why? Why would anyone want to deal with a raid leadership that pulls the things Anarke and McGanahan have in this recent era.

Pre Velious I was actually asking if we’d rotate warders, and after the continuous “GMs don’t count seconds.” Yeli stalls, LTK exit trains (don’t get it twisted ST has done things also) the classic “control your raid mob” I don’t feel bad for kingdom, they chose to ignore key mobs for 7 months, and when they decided to compete the Kill 1 Concede 2 atmosphere began and just wasn’t pretty.

**Disclaimer** These our opinions of the author alone, please take them as such

Propaganda.

[adruidarkly]

If your guild is now suddenly tired of these "fun social socks chatting with pals waiting for dragons" why not *gasp* stop doing them if you don't want to? That's what other guilds do. You know, let life take precedent over a game?

[Phraxas]

Originally Posted by adruidarkly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If your guild is now suddenly tired of these "fun social socks chatting with pals waiting for dragons" why not *gasp* stop doing them if you don't want to? That's what other guilds do. You know, let life take precedent over a game?

Don’t forget that disclaimer my friend

[Phantomius]

Seal Team should never had been allowed to exist either way. They ruined the game for everyone and have managed to get many people in my guild and probably others.

[Toxigen]

sorry you care too much about silly things in life

hope this helps

[Abukii]

Sorry you wasted 7 months never touching a key mob then ST keys got loot counciled on top of no warder loot. Hope this helps