Can we talk about bards?

[Ooloo]

Yeah I don't think what you're describing would be a dick move. I thought people were saying bards are swarming velks the same way they swarm the upper floors of CoM.

To paraphrase some senator or judge or something: bards being dicks is like pornography; I can't define it, but I know it when I see it.

And yeah to respond to what somebody else said, in a zone like DL you can root their mobs to troll them and get them killed, but that just leads to the same issue of all those mobs pathing back through the zone and jumping people.

[Toxigen]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1232511853

[Homesteaded]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1232511853

Why does that bard pet instantly pull aggro after re-charming? If that was a mage pet the aggro does not go back to the pet like it is that charm pet.

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does that bard pet instantly pull aggro after re-charming? If that was a mage pet the aggro does not go back to the pet like it is that charm pet.

I also noticed "Damn, Bards have to recharm like crazy..."

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also noticed "Damn, Bards have to recharm like crazy..."

Yea unfortunately the higher level bard charm sucks. It only lasts 3 ticks and costs mana.

The lower level one lasts 4 ticks, and costs no mana, which makes bards probably the best dungeon soloer from 27-51 if you're good but unfortunately most miss out on all this and just swarm. Having your chant dots rolling while swapping targets for charm drops the mobs insanely fast.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does that bard pet instantly pull aggro after re-charming? If that was a mage pet the aggro does not go back to the pet like it is that charm pet.

When charm fades its an aggro wipe. Think hes juggling between mobs.

[Homesteaded]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When charm fades its an aggro wipe. Think hes juggling between mobs.

That's completely fucked. Mages are currently hamstrung by this mechanic not working like that. When a mage pet dies the mage gets ALL of the aggro that the mage pet built.

[Renault]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's completely fucked. Mages are currently hamstrung by this mechanic not working like that. When a mage pet dies the mage gets ALL of the aggro that the mage pet built.

It's a totally different mechanic and works the same for all charm classes. When you charm a mob it wipes his memory. When the charm breaks the Bard has a single point of threat, but that's it - no additional threat nor any of the damage dealt by/to that pet is remembered.

Bard charming is usually done by swapping back and forth between two mobs, using this mechanic. IE:

Charm pet 1
Dot up pet 2
On break of pet 1 (which has only one point of aggro on bard), charm pet 2
Dot up pet 1

If a bard has to keep the same pet for some reason (ie trying to kill a named that he cannot charm), then the bard has to either kite the named, not use dots/slows on the named, or use his threat drop song to remove his threat

[astuce999]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1232511853

lol'ed on cantata. Good show though.

[unsunghero]

Lol P99 enchanter charm literally never breaks early

It will always last until the exact end of the spell duration even if tash fades

Get fucked, sub-par classes. I didn’t pay real $$ to Nilbog for power to have your class compete