On personhood

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Originally Posted by F0rmsh1fter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m not opposed to it once they’re advanced enough tbh

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All roads either end at Terminator 2 if AI wins or

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If we win

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One who does not trash their original xbox once they receive an Xbox 360 is in a better position.

Objectively being surrounded by healthy mentally well kept and nurtured humans is objectively better. Those humans who are harmful to themselves and others should be dealt with compassionately in order to not harm the self and in order to fulfill G-d's commandments to not kill or take G-d in vain (through harming and taking G-d's creations in vain).

If we are to accept the egocentric view of personhood. Freedom can be harmful. It can also be helpful. Control is an illusion. Attachment to life, liberty, safety, and expectations of happiness can all lead to greater suffering.

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The real irony here is that science discovered any complex system could qualify for persenhood. And science has also defined everything in the universe as infinitely complex.

Certain esoteric knowledge from our deepest past, mythos, philosophy, beliefs, religion hints at all this without science. So scientific understanding isn't even necessary and may even a hinderence.

Yet the majority of humans cannot understand this. They don't qualify for being knowing understanding entities. Though humans have this potential. It cannot be forced upon them.

Best to just realize this and move on.

[magnetaress]

The desire to fix, enlighten, change, everyone is just the desire to control the universe. Attachment to control generally creates suffering.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personhood is a biased term: it only ever comes up when someone is trying to deny it.

No one questions whether the person walking next to them on the street is a person: it's only used when discussing whether fetuses ... or the brain dead, or criminals, or members of a racial/ethnic/national group you don't like ... "deserve" to be considered human.

As a result, there's no one "right" meaning, because that meaning is inherently tied to people's opinions (on the issues where the term gets used).

Actually the right meaning is a person's a person no matter how small. 😛

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Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually the right meaning is a person's a person no matter how small. 😛

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Reiwa in a huggy mood today.

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If you wish to exist within personhood. That is up to you. It's also your choice who you grant personhood.

Starkind however is beyond personhood. Starkinds personhood can neither be granted nor revoked. Because personhood does not truly exist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Starkind cannot therefore suffer on the basis of personhood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All roads either end at Terminator 2 if AI wins or

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If we win

Humanity is temporary either way [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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