Game Mechanics: Mem blur and HP

[YendorLootmonkey]

It was done by a different guild on Talendor as shown above and was never ruled an exploit, so it is being considered fair game in a non-CSR-assist zone until ruled otherwise.

Either way, an official response would be appreciated so we know how to proceed within the scope of the server rules.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was done ... on Talendor ... and was never ruled an exploit

Was it even duly reported or just the subject of RnF?

[Versus]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was done by a different guild on Talendor as shown above and was never ruled an exploit, so it is being considered fair game in a non-CSR-assist zone until ruled otherwise.

Either way, an official response would be appreciated so we know how to proceed within the scope of the server rules.

For the record, that was our pull. We had FTE and therefore can cast whatever spells we want on the mob. IB/VD stole it off our puller. That's why nothing was ever done about it.

[quido]

I have a huge penis.

[Banbarian]

ITT: VD stands up to bullies, bullies cry!

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a huge penis.

This is not a bug, its a common trait given to us by the 7th Hammer

[Shiftin]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For the record, that was our pull. We had FTE and therefore can cast whatever spells we want on the mob. IB/VD stole it off our puller. That's why nothing was ever done about it.

You lost FTE when the only person on the aggro list was charmed. That moves a player from the aggro list because that player is friendly to the dragon. This is why you pull dragons with two people and why talndor shouted a re-engage message when our puller hit him as he saw talendor patching back home rather than following your puller.

I can prove that being charmed removes you from the aggro list based on a recent hoshkar when I get home to my PC if you like, but the logs of talendor using his specific shout only used when first aggroed out of seek mode kinda already proved this.

Saying something is established without understanding the mechanics of the server is extremely counterproductive to a discussion like this. You've also been told and chastised IB in the past for taking matters into our own hands. You are no less wrong in forcing a wipe here than you claim we were in similar instances. You cannot have it both ways.

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You lost FTE when the only person on the aggro list was charmed. That moves a player from the aggro list because that player is friendly to the dragon. This is why you pull dragons with two people and why talndor shouted a re-engage message when our puller hit him as he saw talendor patching back home rather than following your puller.

I can prove that being charmed removes you from the aggro list based on a recent hoshkar when I get home to my PC if you like, but the logs of talendor using his specific shout only used when first aggroed out of seek mode kinda already proved this.

Saying something is established without understanding the mechanics of the server is extremely counterproductive to a discussion like this. You've also been told and chastised IB in the past for taking matters into our own hands. You are no less wrong in forcing a wipe here than you claim we were in similar instances. You cannot have it both ways.

It doesn't matter if he was charmed and it "dropped" him from aggro table. He was still FTE, still alive, and would be attacked once charm dropped. Being charmed is still being engaged with a mob. What you're talking about is a technicality, and by what you're saying it compares to a cleric dropping a DD and then casting DI. He is still FTE but it will take a few moments for the mob to attack.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was done by a different guild on Talendor as shown above and was never ruled an exploit, so it is being considered fair game in a non-CSR-assist zone until ruled otherwise.

Either way, an official response would be appreciated so we know how to proceed within the scope of the server rules.

i'm so glad you said this.

Who deemed that it was considered fair game to exploit a known bug?

[Xatava]

1. Is it a bug or broken mechanic?
Yes
2. Is it being used to gain an unfair advantage (ie: accomplish something that would not be possible without exploiting said broken mechanic)?
Yes
3. Do server rules state that players are not to exploit bugs to gain an unfair advantage?
Yes

Where is the confusion coming from? You think because VP is a zone that CSRs won't assist in that you're allowed to exploit bugs there? By that logic you probably fire up the old macroquest every time you zone in as well I suppose.

Use some common sense people.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Xatava [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where is the confusion coming from?

The confusion is coming from that it was done on Talendor to another guild and nothing ever became of it, so it must be a legit strategy. Otherwise, if it were exploiting, certainly the guild who did it on Talendor would have reaped some sort of consequences from it.