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Old 09-05-2012, 12:17 AM
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i heard a rumor that charming in sky was nerfed on p99 after being abused, but really i have no clue.

what i do know is i tried to click strings on the lvl 50 bees from island 6. i think i got 3 resisted clicks before i let myself die. some say they just have high MR and need to be tashed/malo'd first (i was lvl 60 when i tried). i've read sky guides that talk bout charming two of the bees to kill the bee boss, but i don't have a link handy, and it wouldn't be pertinent to this era i dont think even if i did.

on p99.... island 1 and 2 can be mezed for sure. not sure i've seen anyone try to mez island 3 mobs since they can be singled easily. the first split on the island 4 mobs can be mezed for sure, not sure about the 2nd pops since again there is no reason to ever be in a raid situation to have to mez them. island 5 trash can be mezed, but you'll want to use the higher level mez that burns more mana (forgive me for not knowing the names), the lower level mez will get resisted too many times. there isn't much reason to mez the guardian unless you want to solo him :P so i haven't seen anyone try. past that i dont see why the first wave of bees wouldn't be mezable (only level 50), but i have no experience with them at all.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:50 PM
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I seem to remember hearing vague rumors of IB owning sky with charmed mobs (this was before the charm nerf). To which I say: so what? Charming mobs that quad for 400 is a rush with great risk-reward. All of Vesica Dei used to get a huge laugh out of me getting wtfpwned by some ex charmed pet running amok. One time I was in a group with an app cleric who actually asked me for clarity after I had died in ~3-4 seconds or so. And enchanters get little enough fun on raids.

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Old 09-10-2012, 01:37 AM
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:35 PM
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:04 PM
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I seem to remember hearing vague rumors of IB owning sky with charmed mobs (this was before the charm nerf). To which I say: so what? Charming mobs that quad for 400 is a rush with great risk-reward. All of Vesica Dei used to get a huge laugh out of me getting wtfpwned by some ex charmed pet running amok. One time I was in a group with an app cleric who actually asked me for clarity after I had died in ~3-4 seconds or so. And enchanters get little enough fun on raids.

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I bet you can snare Sirran here too. What a shame.

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But oh! The reward!
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:24 PM
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I bet you can snare Sirran here too. What a shame.

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Can't snare him or anything in sky as all mobs are immune to changes in run speed in that zone.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:18 PM
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Nirgon, you do realize Sirran will summon right?
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:41 AM
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Can't snare him or anything in sky as all mobs are immune to changes in run speed in that zone.
pretty sure i've snared and rooted the thunder sprites on p99. i remember being sub-60 and thinking about exping there (druid). my roots would hold for 2-3 seconds (not enough time to even cast another spell), but snare would seem to hold, despite being less useful for exping purposes.

tho i know azaracks and up are immune to changes in run speed
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:54 AM
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Nirgon, you do realize Sirran will summon right?
Given that he's lvl 55... he SHOULD, yes. He should be death touching though.

Even if he does death touch that's only an obvious advantage. You can time a charm break so one person gets DT'd and you get him back. He would stomp many mobs.

It should be a bard charm working on him as well as just about everything that passes a magic resist check if you want this bug to stay. Keymaster included and he doesn't despawn / go perma aggro after smoking someone.
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:07 PM
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FWIW Nirgon, 95% of the time in VD I didn't get to dictate Sirran (and I wanted to do this like every time because Sky is horribly boring for enchanters with all the non-classic immunities up there) because he assists every other mob on the charm break, and a quadding Sirran is quite capable of wiping your raid.

In other words, you are empirically wrong on the risk/reward of charming him for a big guild.

Also bard charm doesn't go up to L55, so I don't know what you are smoking there.
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