End of the rotation?

[jpetrick]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I tried duoing Ixi a while back and got unlucky with a charm break. We threw a mage into the cleric/enchanter combo and had no issues.

But let's not forget that AT would not be able to perform their "low numbers" miracles without the effort of the Zerg guilds killing CT and getting puppet strings into the market. Also we ought to probably recognize that a charmed mob is equal to 2 DPS players. So that 7 man spiroc kill is more like 21. Too me that seems like a normal engage force.

Forgive me if I don't cream my pants over that.

I mean yeah except you eat a DT and now you have 5 players instead of 6 but yep thats definitely just like having 21 people there.

[Fanguru]

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[Raev]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess I just think it's lame that everyone's trying to play it off like BDA is somehow dissolving the rotation even though a) it's not us, the fact that the proposal was amended is a clear indicator that our officers are trying to negotiate with people and b) even if they weren't, it's not like we have any kind of authority to blow up the rotation anyway. Like why is everyone treating this like some kind of fucking revolution against the totalitarian BDA when the reality of the situation is we made a proposal, it got rejected, we amended it to be more accommodating, and now everyone is like WE'RE FUCKING OUT OF HERE?

Your amended proposal is the most asinine thing I have ever seen cross the FAP boards. YOU CANNOT POSSIBLY THINK THAT MAKING NEW GUILDS KILL TALENDOR AT 3AM TO ENTER THE ROTATION TO KILL DRACO IS A GOOD IDEA.

Anyway, I think this about my quota of RNF for the day. Good day everyone, and don't let Juevento troll you too hard Elzhi

[Anichek]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your amended proposal is the most asinine thing I have ever seen cross the FAP boards. YOU CANNOT POSSIBLY THINK THAT MAKING NEW GUILDS KILL TALENDOR AT 3AM TO ENTER THE ROTATION TO KILL DRACO IS A GOOD IDEA.

Anyway, I think this about my quota of RNF for the day. Good day everyone, and don't let Juevento troll you too hard Elzhi

That was the amended one. What about the amended amended one?

[Argh]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess I just think it's lame that everyone's trying to play it off like BDA is somehow dissolving the rotation

It's most likely due to the fact that it is BDA's first foray into threatening to leave the rotation. They usually just let Taken/Div threaten to leave and then Chest tries to mediate between both sides.

Threatening to leave the rotation in FAP is literally the only way to negotiate rule changes. If nobody threatens to leave, it's just people arguing on the forums without any concrete process to change things.

[Juevento]

3am eastern is midnight PST and 3am PST is 6am. Why is the 3am kill a problem for people?

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's most likely due to the fact that it is BDA's first foray into threatening to leave the rotation. They usually just let Taken/Div threaten to leave and then Chest tries to mediate between both sides.

Threatening to leave the rotation in FAP is literally the only way to negotiate rule changes. If nobody threatens to leave, it's just people arguing on the forums without any concrete process to change things.

So if this is such a common thing why are we Hitler for doing it? Why all the knotted panties and BDA hate over it? See what I'm saying?

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your amended proposal is the most asinine thing I have ever seen cross the FAP boards. YOU CANNOT POSSIBLY THINK THAT MAKING NEW GUILDS KILL TALENDOR AT 3AM TO ENTER THE ROTATION TO KILL DRACO IS A GOOD IDEA.

Anyway, I think this about my quota of RNF for the day. Good day everyone, and don't let Juevento troll you too hard Elzhi

If I had to pick one thing about the proposal that I personally don't "get," it's the elimination of dark periods. I thought dark periods were a great idea.


But that doesn't have anything to do with what I'm asking here, which is how is it that BDA amended the proposal and is clearly interested in negotiation yet we are taking the blame for the blowup of the rotation which it seems to me everyone ELSE is leaving? This sounds a lot like a bunch of trolls trying really hard to make us look like the bad guys so that people won't be willing to negotiate with us and the rotation will, in fact, blow up.

[Argh]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3am eastern is midnight PST and 3am PST is 6am. Why is the 3am kill a problem for people?

Did you have to consult the Farmer's Almanac to do those wicked time conversions?

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

YOU CANNOT POSSIBLY THINK THAT MAKING NEW GUILDS KILL TALENDOR AT 3AM TO ENTER THE ROTATION TO KILL DRACO IS A GOOD IDEA.

So wait until it's a better spawn window to attempt getting in the higher tier? No where is it forcing you to attempt mobs at 3am. Do you think most of BDA answers 3am batphones? Fucking Chest doesn't, that bitch is in bed by 9pm.

It doesn't matter what mob it is that requires being killed to enter a mob rotation - if it spawns at 3am it's still inconvenient.

[Argh]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if this is such a common thing why are we Hitler for doing it? Why all the knotted panties and BDA hate over it? See what I'm saying?

Probably because RNF has been dead for a while and everyone needs something new to be outraged about.