Aftermath eating a full 10 days raid suspension

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Originally Posted by VANVEM [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll take your word on the FTE, but you or anyone of the people here from aftermath please show me where in the "new" kael rules it changes:

Q12: What exactly does the Staff consider a stall?
A: As far as engage stalls, the Staff will grant you one DA, or about that much time on an engage before considering it a stall. So it’s important that guilds do not engage a mob until they are ready to kill it. The spirit of the rule (and what we are looking to do here) is to prevent guilds from locking up a target before they are ready to kill it, just to prevent other guilds that are ready to kill it first/faster. If you stall, you need to drop aggro immediately and concede/forfeit the mob. Any number of players can be considered to be stalling a mob, what we look for is the engage of the kill force. I know some of you want an exact number of seconds, or players, or DPS done, but the fact is that’s just not realistic with guilds being so vastly different in numbers and strength while also competing for the same content. The most important thing here is the statement about the spirit of this rule stated above.

Please do not respond with They didn't answer or they said unlimited time, neither of those addresses the fact that FTE was gained with no intent to engage. Which according to Sirken's raid rule is The spirit of the rule

so with that said, what they did was NOT entirely legal. Again I don't think it warrants a 10 day suspenson, but allowing someone to "teach the server a lesson" by Blatantly breaking the Spirit of the Rule. has to be the Absofuckinglutley worst thing we could do to try and make the server a better place.

According to the race up rule, you don't even need your force in the zone when the FTE goes off. How does this stall rule still have any bearing?

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Originally Posted by Kluwen1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread has become laughable. I can assure you Aftermath will not be conceding anything based off a ridiculous RNF thread. Feel free to have your leadership come to the table to try to iron out the FTE rule and for what it's worth, Awakened also ran as soon as the ground rumbled. Maybe you can start a separate thread to try to get them suspended to in RNF!

Except your team got illegal FTE and those runners who started early from Awakened did not.

Pretty big difference there but continue to stick your head in the sand when it comes to following basic server rules.

Looking forward to the future Kael concessions since you guys

Originally Posted by Morgander [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aftermath (of which I can speak for), attempt to abide by them 100% of the time

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Originally Posted by Kluwen1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure you'll try to spin it regardless to attempt to get yourself free mobs.

Who is spinning? Most people here are just asking for Aftermath to man up and admit they fucked up.

We all make mistakes - are these dirty pixels ( which your guild acquires plenty of ) worth not simply doing whats right and accepting you messed up?