Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Lampolo]

That was a nice version of what I had to say. I typed that with care for you dsm. Those were not insults. I actually retyped that cause I didn't want to be mean. The way you bate people and switch everything up and stay irrelevant makes me think you are a very diligent troll and not so dumb

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Lysander [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow I just found this thread and this is a gem outside of RnF, I am surprised no one moved it.

As for my takes on it, unfortunately for all you guys trying to look good for arguing with DSM; you guys were clearly trolling him, and I don't know how some of you guys think you are angels for opposing him and losing faith in humanity because of his persistence. It's a bit much. And clearly, I think DSM should have given up on page 30 rather than on page 360. I think he has a bit of a problem for going on so long, but so do all of you clearly and you should stop pretending to be white knights like you have the high ground or something. You are not heroes of justice for opposing his (possibly) wrong views about Everquest. The projection that DSM is a autistic stubborn asshole troll but not me is baffling considering many of you also argued for a good 40-50 pages of this thread too.

If you all notice, this thread only ended when DSM stopped posting. That should be a sign that you guys were all egging him on, not the other way around. DSM's character flaw is just that doesn't know how to let others get the last word in. (I think he's learning) And he has different opinions about things. He seems cool and I would take him in my xp group any day. You guys say he's a complete moron but I haven't seen any evidence he doesn't play his shaman well.

As for the content of the thread, well I've never been in a 4 person group for optimization purposes so I think it's a dumb thing to debate. I would probably pick enc/enc/cleric/mage. Sorry DSM, they convinced me, I think you're wrong. I support your crusade and I have never been in a enc/enc/cleric/shm group in my life so i have no idea. I don't agree with everything he posts but he has his points and I enjoy reading them, and clearly most of the forum does here too because everytime he posts things they balloon to 50 pages. Y'all should be really grateful to him. You all flame him and troll him but he's still here. Most people would have left long ago.

I'm so glad to contribute to this amazing thread! BDA to Phinigel!

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was a nice version of what I had to say. I typed that with care for you dsm. Those were not insults. I actually retyped that cause I didn't want to be mean. The way you bate people and switch everything up and stay irrelevant makes me think you are a very diligent troll and not so dumb

I see you realized that admitting to being a bully and insulting people is bad for your image. Glad I could help!

[Lampolo]

Telling people they are secretly admitting something they are unaware of is provocative. You do this constantly. You act so smug like your the only one that can read between the lines. This is what I mean by unlikable...etc

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Telling people they are secretly admitting something they are unaware of is provocative. You do this constantly. You act so smug like your the only one that can read between the lines. This is what I mean by unlikable...etc

There is no implication of secret admissions, or reading between the lines. You said it directly:

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are ripe for bullying

You have been acting very aggressive, so it sounds disingenuous when you try to explain yourself. You look like you are trying to weasel your way out of a mistake.

Let me give you the benefit of the doubt and believe you when you say you are trying to help me. Context does get lost in text messages.

Your recent posts are master classes on how a bully acts, and you put yourself into a trap by saying I am "ripe for bullying".

You aren't going to win any hearts and minds this way. I would advise you change tactics.

[Lampolo]

You may have needed more bullying/ass kicking as a kid. A certain degree of this can be healthy and necessary for correcting dogs shit behavior

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You may have needed more bullying/ass kicking as a kid. A certain degree of this can be healthy and necessary for correcting dogs shit behavior

You just claimed that you aren't a bully, and are now advocating that I get bullied.

Amazing. I guess I wasn't "reading between the lines".

[Lampolo]

try making sense next post

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by Lysander [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow I just found this thread and this is a gem outside of RnF, I am surprised no one moved it.

As for my takes on it, unfortunately for all you guys trying to look good for arguing with DSM; you guys were clearly trolling him, and I don't know how some of you guys think you are angels for opposing him and losing faith in humanity because of his persistence. It's a bit much. And clearly, I think DSM should have given up on page 30 rather than on page 360. I think he has a bit of a problem for going on so long, but so do all of you clearly and you should stop pretending to be white knights like you have the high ground or something. You are not heroes of justice for opposing his (possibly) wrong views about Everquest. The projection that DSM is a autistic stubborn asshole troll but not me is baffling considering many of you also argued for a good 40-50 pages of this thread too.

If you all notice, this thread only ended when DSM stopped posting. That should be a sign that you guys were all egging him on, not the other way around. DSM's character flaw is just that doesn't know how to let others get the last word in. (I think he's learning) And he has different opinions about things. He seems cool and I would take him in my xp group any day. You guys say he's a complete moron but I haven't seen any evidence he doesn't play his shaman well.

As for the content of the thread, well I've never been in a 4 person group for optimization purposes so I think it's a dumb thing to debate. I would probably pick enc/enc/cleric/mage. Sorry DSM, they convinced me, I think you're wrong. I support your crusade and I have never been in a enc/enc/cleric/shm group in my life so i have no idea. I don't agree with everything he posts but he has his points and I enjoy reading them, and clearly most of the forum does here too because everytime he posts things they balloon to 50 pages. Y'all should be really grateful to him. You all flame him and troll him but he's still here. Most people would have left long ago.

I'm so glad to contribute to this amazing thread! BDA to Phinigel!

Do you enjoy being a self-righteous hypocrite? Have you not read this thread thoroughly enough to determine why people acted the way they did?

The "man" will do anything to "win" an argument by moving the goalposts, calling for evidence in the most ludicrous ways, and ignoring logic. If you've played this game long enough, you'll realise the sheer absurdity of having a shaman root rotting next to a charm group.

And why is he pushing for this argument so badly? To prove that shamans can attain a higher DPS than mages, with him purposefully ignoring how impractical and pointless it is in a realistic scenario.

He deserves everything he gets. Don't you dare deny it and say that we're "trolling".

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am sorry, but you don't get to decide how other people want to play the game. Your entire argument hinges on the assumption everybody wants to play the game in the exact same way as yourself. You really need to get a life if you think you can enforce such a policy by insulting other people on a forum.

I think you're both a troll and an idiot here. It's not one or the other -- it's both.

Because where in my post did I suggest I get to decide how people play the game? It's more that no one sane will appreciate root rotting in a charm group of 4 people. I've never seen anyone suggest what you described in a group, because why on earth would they?

If you want to suddenly switch this to "safety is better than an extra DPS", then why wouldn't I want a druid instead? They can snare the charms, and they can get the 2 enchanters and 1 cleric faster to place they want to be. They can even throw in an extra charm if the zone allows.

Why would this group want a shaman? Shaman is a very powerful jack of all trades caster, but enchanter and cleric both have its abilities covered, and even supersede it.

How is this not obvious to everyone who has played this game for even a moderate amount of time?

You aren't going to win any hearts and minds this way. I would advise you change tactics.

And you have...?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because where in my post did I suggest I get to decide how people play the game?

In your very next sentence:

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's more that no one sane will appreciate root rotting in a charm group of 4 people. I've never seen anyone suggest what you described in a group, because why on earth would they?

What you are doing here is making a statement of fact that my suggestion cannot work, without any evidence other than you saying so. You keep insisting you cannot be wrong, but haven't actually done anything to prove it, other than your word. I am not sure why you think people care about what you claim is insane. Root rotting isn't any more dangerous than charming pets and giving them torches + haste.

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to suddenly switch this to "safety is better than an extra DPS", then why wouldn't I want a druid instead?

The logic isn't hard to follow. Enchanters are the best solo class in the game. They also happen to be the number one pick in this thread, and I agree with that pick. Shamans are the second best solo class in the game. If you put the two best solo classes together, you get an extremely powerful combination. That is why Shaman/Monk/Enchanter is one of the best trios out there. You have the best solo class from each type (Priest, Melee, Int Caster).

This isn't just my opinion either. If you have played the game for a while and have been on these forums, you would know that is a common enough suggestion for trios. It's not a large logical leap to take a strong trio and tac an extra class onto it when discussing a group of four players.