Awakened Banned 10 days

[Erati]

@Cucs

I love the power of hindsight as well, its pretty incredible already knowing what happened then looking back and figuring out how to not arrive at the current present.

Aftermath gets a pass for their use bc their GL was the first to request a ceasefire of an unpolicable tactic so we will wash away all their abusers and the community will act like they never did it because AM gives out some uncontested mobs.

Got it.

No one even cares that the conversation about halting this tactic was pretty recent and after the petition had already been filed. It would have gone a long way to come to us directly with their claim, threaten to petition if we didnt stop THEN tried to get us to agree but that's not how AM rolls ( hats off to the lawyers )

This was a ruse all along to get some logs of the two GLs talking about this ( knowing Breaken wouldnt agree bc you cant police ) all while the petition sat. Cannot be more slimey tbh and even if Breaken said 'sure, we will do what we can' that petition would have still been active and more than likely result in the same raid suspension.

Hippos always gonna crit.

[BallzDeep]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A) Several people in this thread have commented on how transparent Hjial was with uploading his FTE videos. If Breaken did as Daldean says he did ("spoke with him after Detoxx's pestering"), then this could have been enforceable on your end just by looking at his videos. The fact that his videos were online and showed him constantly doing this is reason enough to believe that Breaken flat-out ignored Detoxx's requests and continued to allow his members to push what should be an obviously illegal tactic.
B) What does this change? You're not willing to take the high road because you don't know if the opposition will follow suit? Sounds like a bunch of projection bullshit to me.
C) And this is why you're all a bunch of ineffective shitty leaders. You should have discouraged this within your playerbase and been watching for it. You can sit here and say it's not policeable all you want but everyone knows that is complete and utter bullshit. How many fraps do you exchange with Aftermath on the regular? If you both of agree to stop tab-jumping and it's present in an unrelated video, guess what - you've just policed it! And better yet, you can revert to your agreement to not fucking do it to use as leverage with Sirken!

And yes, this could have ended much better for Awakened - Breaken could have not thrown his puny dick around with Detoxx and just agreed to it, and then acted like a leader and booted anyone that didn't follow his orders to not do it (namely, Hjial, the guy who was apparently super transparent and posted all his videos online). Instead ya'll took the 'well no one can prove anything and we can't trust anyone else to not do it so lets just keep being shitty' road and look where it landed you! Your guild leader is trying to save face and pointing fingers at everyone but himself while actively shitposting on other guilds recruitment threads. What a fucking embarrassment. Never thought I'd see the day where a guildleader looks less reasonable than Detoxx.

less reasonable than detoxx

The tell them all not to do it and boot them if it happens won't work lol. You enforce that rule, ban the first person and videos will start to become private or they will just claim they didn't record.

If you haven't realize by now there is a common theme. People play this game to try and be a legend in the game. They will take any advantage they can get. I guarantee you now that this thread has came out, even more people will be alt+tabbing to gain that extra edge.

If you agree to anything with Detoxx, your stupid. If we've learned anything, player made agreements DON'T work; especially between the top guilds.

[Hevie]

Alt tabbing was classic. EQWindows.

Alt tabbing is no different than the effect that the frame rate slider offers in your options. Many people use different fps for different races.

Foot racing is an arms race. Hjial started alt tabbing to combat runners in AM doing the same. Aftermath may have knowingly acknowledged this as cheating but Awakened didn't. Hjial just stepped topped up to the plate and kept winning.

In that 12 19 race, Hjial blew them out of the fucking water with the exact same tools they were using. Cry bitch moan cheat scandal high horse. Get wrecked.

[Hevie]

- topped .. spell checker adding words on me.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Hevie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In that 12 19 race, Hjial blew them out of the fucking water with the exact same tools they were using. Cry bitch moan cheat scandal high horse. Get wrecked.

Dont forget, in that same video that was submitted as 'proof', the fraps clearly show Detoxx utilizing the same frame rate exploit lol

Its literally a guy showing up at the police department saying he 'caught a murderer' all while he himself is not only holding a murder weapon but has bloody clothes.

But ignore that, he said something first !

[Daldaen]

Still seeking Raid Scene GM title so I can Make P99 Great Again.

Low Variance
Rotated Lower Quality Mobs
Maximum competition Higher Quality Mobs
Raid Petitions only in Raid Discussion Forum, no more shadow petitions
Fast Respawn of Raid mobs once timeline done
Ill begotten loot will be deleted and stored in a list to then drop from the next server event.

#VoteDaldaen2017

[khanable]

Originally Posted by mefdinkins [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Breaken and the majority of the officer core within Awakened are great leaders as shown by the strength of their guild.

We're talking about the guild that has to poll all its members before it makes any policy changes. The same guild that is relying on staff to explicitly outlaw specific things because they don't have the gruff to manage their own members. The same guild that has had three 10 day suspensions - the most recently for fucking cheating g.

Yeah, sorry, but no one believes this.

Erati, grow a pair.

BallsDeep, I've personally seen it work. Keep playing the victim, shitlord.

[Lammy]

I guess now you would have to chance it and run the risk that your FRAPS evidence will be null and void. Since you can't submit it showing your runner alt+tabbing now.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@Cucs

I love the power of hindsight as well, its pretty incredible already knowing what happened then looking back and figuring out how to not arrive at the current present.

Aftermath gets a pass for their use bc their GL was the first to request a ceasefire of an unpolicable tactic so we will wash away all their abusers and the community will act like they never did it because AM gives out some uncontested mobs.

Got it.

No one even cares that the conversation about halting this tactic was pretty recent and after the petition had already been filed. It would have gone a long way to come to us directly with their claim, threaten to petition if we didnt stop THEN tried to get us to agree but that's not how AM rolls ( hats off to the lawyers )

This was a ruse all along to get some logs of the two GLs talking about this ( knowing Breaken wouldnt agree bc you cant police ) all while the petition sat. Cannot be more slimey tbh and even if Breaken said 'sure, we will do what we can' that petition would have still been active and more than likely result in the same raid suspension.

Hippos always gonna crit.

To expand on my grow a pair comment - this isn't hindsight, this is leadership 101.

No one is giving AM a pass, stop trying so fucking hard to be a victim. The cockblock on the agreement to not do it was you guys - not AM. And this "we can't trust them so well maintain a shit raid scene" is a fucking lame dick excuse made by betas who don't let their girlfriends go out with their girlfriends because they "can't know for sure they won't fuck someone else".

[mefdinkins]

Originally Posted by BallzDeep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you agree to anything with Detoxx, your stupid. If we've learned anything, player made agreements DON'T work; especially between the top guilds.

Pretty sure Awakened had a player made agreement with a number of guilds including Rustle with regards to VP. Awakened was abiding by the terms of the agreement and gave VP loots to other guilds and low and behold Rustle doesn't keep their end of the agreement.

So yes, how can you trust guilds to police themselves? Cucumbers who will be removed from Rustle or banned for that blatant violation of trust and the sanctity of one's word? The officers, leaders, the recipient of the staff?