Any Young-Earth Creationists?

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If God created the physical universe then that means he is not a physical being himself and therefor isn't subject to the rules of the universe. Everything within the universe including the universe itself has a beginning and an end and as such, is a finite creation. God represents the infinite, the eternal, no beginning nor end. It's not a cop out at all, just logic really. Something had to of always existed otherwise there would only be nothing. We know this something isn't the universe because we know the universe had a beginning just like our planet and our sun had a beginning.

Ok, so:

You: God created the universe.

Me: Who created God?

You: It doesn't matter, when you create the universe, you don't need to be created.

How the FUCK is that logical? That's nothing more than belief.

[vaylorie]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, so:

You: God created the universe.

Me: Who created God?

You: It doesn't matter, when you create the universe, you don't need to be created.

How the FUCK is that logical? That's nothing more than belief.

Ok, so:

You: Life in modern form was purely natural, infinitesimal chance over time = infinite complexity.

Me: Well, where did the original matter come from?

You: Nobody knows.

Me: Could it have been created?

You: There is absolutely no creator.

Me: Then how did it get here?

You: Nobody knows, we just can't understand it.

Me: You sure it couldn't have been a creator god?

You: No, it certainly wasn't a creator God.

Ephirith, Dropping logic bombs!

[OMGWTF420]

e-mc2 or whatever, the big bang happened because physic's demanded it happen. its science, not god. just because our minds cant grasp the concepts of life before the big bang yet does not mean there isnt an explanation. writing it off as some sort of god or supernatural being or something we cant understand is selling ourselves short imo

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by OMGWTF420 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

e-mc2 or whatever, the big bang happened because physic's demanded it happen. its science, not god. just because our minds cant grasp the concepts of life before the big bang yet does not mean there isnt an explanation. writing it off as some sort of god or supernatural being or something we cant understand is selling ourselves short imo

There is a god. Heather be thy name. Schwing!

[Hitchens]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would you want to keep the truth of reality out of public schools? So basically you support the dumbing down of people?

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[Hailto]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's pretty obvious that the Universe is a creation since things don't just create themselves.

Who created god? Don't give me the "he always existed" cop out either, if you want to make a statement like that you have to form your argument within it.

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is in fact so advanced that the only logical conclusion for its existence is that it is the creation of a being with intelligence beyond measure.

So what created the being with intelligence beyond measure? It's a proven impossibility that something as advanced as a being with intelligence beyond measure could form naturally. The only logical conclusion for its existence is that it is the creation of a being with intelligence beyond being beyond measure.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a creationist but not a young earth one. In fact I don't see why anyone would be since the Bible never once mentions the age of the Earth and the ridiculous amount of evidence which blatantly suggests the earth is clearly very old. It's pretty obvious that the Universe is a creation since things don't just create themselves. It's a proven impossibility that something as advanced as DNA could form naturally. It is in fact so advanced that the only logical conclusion for its existence is that it is the creation of a being with intelligence beyond measure.

^ creationism confirmed scientifically proven, deal with it heathens

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ creationism confirmed scientifically proven, deal with it heathens

[Ephirith]

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billions and billions of years of stellar evolution, anything is possible m8ies