Godzilla 2014

[Nihilist_santa]

CGI are horrible effects. Everything looks fake with CGI. The only thing you are immersed into is a plastic world with poor dialog , horrible acting, and nonsensical plots. Look at Tron Legacy. Movie looked great but was a complete bore compared to the original and the original actually looked better to me. People want more than just something new to look at.

You mention books and some of my favorites are being made into movies which will most likely be abortions (Neuromancer, Snow Crash, Brave New World). They cant even take a comic book which is already in a storyboard format and do that right much less a novel. They have to change crap around to get that "mass appeal" that just dumbs everything down. Its like MMORPGS, you need more than shiny graphics to make a good game.

[DeruIsLove]

So they fucked up Green Lantern and supposedly the latest Spider Man (can't stand spidey so haven't seen the new ones) that's two out of what 25 comic book movies in the past decade? You're just an angry fanboy.

[Danth]

In fairness, everything typically looks pretty fake in Godzilla movies anyway. That's half the charm of it. You watch a guy in a Godzilla suit smash up cardboard skyscrapers and miniature tanks. That being said, the original 1956 Godzilla film had some fairly neat shots (night time with the monster silhouetted against the burning city, etc) and was decidedly more somber in general than probably any other film of the series.

Danth

[Nihilist_santa]

2? Daredevil, Catwoman, Super Man Returns, The entire X-men franchise. Dylan Dog, I, Frankenstein, 30 days of night, Jonah Hex, Kickass 2 , The Toby Mcguire Spiderman run, Fantastic Four, The Incredible Hulk movies, Constantine, Watchmen (that ending?) and many more. All were complete garbage that just raped the source material . The only reason the Avengers movie was decent (not great) is because Joss Whedon is a semi-competent writer that actually reads comics.

Dont get me wrong I am not expecting something stellar from these "blockbuster" franchises but how hard is it to stick with the source and not blow your whole wad on CGI instead of a writing staff.

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In fairness, everything typically looks pretty fake in Godzilla movies anyway. That's half the charm of it. You watch a guy in a Godzilla suit smash up cardboard skyscrapers and miniature tanks. That being said, the original 1956 Godzilla film had some fairly neat shots (night time with the monster silhouetted against the burning city, etc) and was decidedly more somber in general than probably any other film of the series.

Danth

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[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by DeruIsLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dialog dialog dialog.

Do you have any idea why the old greats are all dialog? Special effects didn't exist back then. Couple that with the fact that the price of a movie ticket inflation adjusted, was a fraction of what it is today, you need your movies to hit a wider audience if you want to make your money back. Film is a visual medium, since the technology exists to do virtually anything we want with film we should be judging films by how well the directors use their resources to immerse us into the story.

There are exceptions of course. LOTR and other movies based on books should be more dialog driven to stay true to their medium of origin, but that's besides the point in this thread as we're talking about a film who's origins are mid budget 50s foreign sci fi turned kaiju beatemups.

If you want dialog so badly read a book or at least do yourself a favor and stop watching blockbusters as you clearly don't get the point.

i do read a lot, but focusing on one medium of conveyance doesn't challenge your brain.

cgi heavy movies can be saved by the dialogue like LOTR or Pans Labyrinth, but most cgi heavy movies are shit like transformers or avatar which had shitty dialogue. in terms of kaiju, pacific rim was saved by charlie day as comedic relief, but the whole movie was almost brought down by lil asian girl love big american man. hysterical laughter at that shit.

we're creatures that create sounds more complex than any other on the planet. even as you read this there's something of a noise resonating in your visual cortex.

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CGI are horrible effects. Everything looks fake with CGI. The only thing you are immersed into is a plastic world with poor dialog , horrible acting, and nonsensical plots.

It's just like P99

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2? Daredevil, Catwoman, Super Man Returns, The entire X-men franchise. Dylan Dog, I, Frankenstein, 30 days of night, Jonah Hex, Kickass 2 , The Toby Mcguire Spiderman run, Fantastic Four, The Incredible Hulk movies, Constantine, Watchmen (that ending?) and many more. All were complete garbage that just raped the source material . The only reason the Avengers movie was decent (not great) is because Joss Whedon is a semi-competent writer that actually reads comics.

Dont get me wrong I am not expecting something stellar from these "blockbuster" franchises but how hard is it to stick with the source and not blow your whole wad on CGI instead of a writing staff.

Most of those weren't in the past decade, of those that were it's a matter of opinion. I never saw Catwoman, however incredible hulk (not "The hulk") was damn good as is the rest of the marvel cinematic universe (weakest link being the first Captain America which was still pretty good for a two hour long Avengers ad). The only thing that held Kickass 2 back was the side story, aside from that it was also pretty good. X men origins was amazing, the second Wolverine movie was enjoyable.

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i do read a lot, but focusing on one medium of conveyance doesn't challenge your brain.

You are talking about action movies. I love a good thought provoking work of art as much as the next guy but I'm not going to go into a comic book/Monster movie expecting Silence of the Lambs. There's more than one way to be entertained/stimulated.

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cgi heavy movies can be saved by the dialogue like LOTR or Pans Labyrinth, but most cgi heavy movies are shit like transformers or avatar which had shitty dialogue. in terms of kaiju, pacific rim was saved by charlie day as comedic relief, but the whole movie was almost brought down by lil asian girl love big american man. hysterical laughter at that shit.

Transformers was shit because Michael Bay only does explosions and couldn't put together a decent fight scene together if his life depended on it. You could video tape car parts in a washing machine for the same effect.
Pacific Rim was written and filmed for one reason and one reason only, having giant robots facing off against giant monsters. It did that. The human aspect of the movie was secondary at best. If they wanted to tell the human side of things they could of made the movie timeline between the first Kaiju attack and the first Jaeger being built.

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we're creatures that create sounds more complex than any other on the planet. even as you read this there's something of a noise resonating in your visual cortex.

Dolphins and whales would like to have a few trillion frequencies with you.

[radditsu]

How do both wolverine movies have the same imdb rating? The second one was fucking great compared to the first.