End of the rotation?

[Raev]

Here is what I don't understand: BDA, unlike Taken, has sufficient VP keys to compete in Class C, yet they have no interest in doing so. When they entered C a month ago, Chest was talking about "getting back to R as soon as possible". When this proposal first hit the FAP forum, it was immediately suggested to them that they could do some FFA targets. Sanluen wrote a long post about how FFA was too hard for them with its huge "barrier to entry".

My question is, how do you guys resolve this "we can't compete for FFA targets" with your plan to go FFA within R? Now maybe if you had done this a year ago, it would have worked. But the other R guilds have too much experience with the encounters now. I would take 25 AT over 50 BDA any day of the week and twice on Sundays. So I suspect that after 2 months BDA is begging for the rotation to resume.

Regardless it's going to make for good RNF. Time to get our popcorn out!

[Blaza]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is what I don't understand: BDA, unlike Taken, has sufficient VP keys to compete in Class C, yet they have no interest in doing so. When they entered C a month ago, Chest was talking about "getting back to R as soon as possible". When this proposal first hit the FAP forum, it was immediately suggested to them that they could do some FFA targets. Sanluen wrote a long post about how FFA was too hard for them with its huge "barrier to entry".

My question is, how do you guys resolve this "we can't compete for FFA targets" with your plan to go FFA within R? Now maybe if you had done this a year ago, it would have worked. But the other R guilds have too much experience with the encounters now. I would take 25 AT over 50 BDA any day of the week and twice on Sundays. So I suspect that after 2 months BDA is begging for the rotation to resume.

Regardless it's going to make for good RNF. Time to get our popcorn out!

At least shit will be fun again. That, and with the lockout rules one guild could only take 1/3 mobs anyhow.

Hopefully in 2 months Velious will be out and it will all be academic.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Funkutron5000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Welcome to Class C BDA, Taken, and Divinity!

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[Blaza]

Originally Posted by HethGnome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just for consideration, one of the major problems with the rotation as it stood before is that guilds that couldn't kill a mob were still occupying a solo spot in the rotation, and then teaming up with one or two other guilds and downing the mob.

So guild A is up for Trak, they can't kill the mob themselves, so they team up with guild B and guild C. Instead of sharing the loot and considering themselves one raid entity, guild A gets their own mob and guild B and guild C keep their own solo spots in the rotation.

Of course the guilds that are killing everything themselves are going to get frustrated at some point.

This.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by wycca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The larger guilds (BDA, Taken, Divinity) were unhappy the smaller guilds were getting the choicest loot that their members deserved.

If you were ever on the FAP forums for any amount of time you'd know that this was Taken & Divinity's constant proposal over the last year. BDA finally joined the crew after Sirken took away the threat of being moved to C and showed them how they can have their cake and eat it to (moving back easily).

So yes, pixel lust now rules the 3 largest guilds in Class R, and they wanted to bully the smaller guilds into accepting 2nd class status. They wanted their protected Class R garden, with as many pixels as possible. I'm glad the smaller guilds said no and exposed the hypocrisy of Chest and Drakakade (to be fair Taken never made any nobility or fairness claims).

I find it amusing that these guys want to be the big fish in the small pond and try to rig it so there is the most pixels for themselves without competition (or else we'll just take it all right? That was this ultimatum - Soviet Russia style). Think you'll be surprised by the 7 guilds who said no, can't wait to see the tears.

In the meantime, I'm waiting for the PR machines to try to explain away their pixel lust and shit sandwich.

Serious miscasting of shit going on in that post. How about the "pixel lust" of small guilds riding the coattails of larger guilds so that they can distribute pixels from easier & more desirable targets amongst a smaller pool than if they were in a guild capable of actually doing all the content?

You want the loots? Man up and form a large enough force to actually kill the tough mobs and (here's the key part[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] then share the "loot pinata" pixels amongst all of the players required to actually earn your place at the table.

The greed and the abuse here are coming 99% from the smaller guilds crying because they want guaranteed pixels at the expense of the players in the larger guilds.

[zanderklocke]

I think the only mob that was really an issue for any guild currently established in the Rotation was Gorenaire.

Every guild had killed all other targets individually, so the proposal was designed to make Gorenaire the mob you had to kill before you could access any mobs that dropped epics. This essentially removed the bottleneck of waiting for guilds on easy mobs like VS that have good loot.

It was suggested that the tiers should be based on mob difficulty rather than their loot, but that didn't fly.

[Aadill]

So BDA and Taken to Class C for competitive FFA and the rest of the guilds continue on Class R Rotation, yes?

[Blaza]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would take 25 AT over 50 BDA any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

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Depends which BDA and which ATeam.

[Anichek]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is what I don't understand: BDA, unlike Taken, has sufficient VP keys to compete in Class C, yet they have no interest in doing so. When they entered C a month ago, Chest was talking about "getting back to R as soon as possible". When this proposal first hit the FAP forum, it was immediately suggested to them that they could do some FFA targets. Sanluen wrote a long post about how FFA was too hard for them with its huge "barrier to entry".

My question is, how do you guys resolve this "we can't compete for FFA targets" with your plan to go FFA within R? Now maybe if you had done this a year ago, it would have worked. But the other R guilds have too much experience with the encounters now. I would take 25 AT over 50 BDA any day of the week and twice on Sundays. So I suspect that after 2 months BDA is begging for the rotation to resume.

Regardless it's going to make for good RNF. Time to get our popcorn out!

BDA doesn't have sufficient VP keys to compete in Class C.....we likely don't even have the most VP keys in Class R, if you are only counting active players.

I've eaten too much popcorn already - can I switch to Reese's Pieces?

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is what I don't understand: BDA, unlike Taken, has sufficient VP keys to compete in Class C, yet they have no interest in doing so.

You know better than that man, that's pure troll. Class C is not about having VP keys, it's about centering your life around elf-simulator pixels. BDA isn't going to do that any more than A-Team is and you know it.