Wizard vs Magician epic - Page 4

nuuki · #31 04-01-2015, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Velerin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1 vs. 1 the mage epic is a beast, esp for things that can be stunned. He has a ton of hp (4k unbuffed) and 50 point self DS. Adds still kick his ass since mages have no cc other than root nets however so you can't really solo HS, seb, etc. without burning a lot of nets to split a camp.

Oh ok. So then is it in a raid setting that the crazy pet truly shines or just adding a lot of dps to xp/camp groups?

Velerin · #32 04-01-2015, 11:27 AM

He really shines in duos/trios where you can utilize his tanking abilities and great DS. I haven't parsed but I don't know how much better his raw dps is over a well positioned focused 60 water pet.

wycca · #33 04-01-2015, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Clerics and bards would like to have a word with you. Cleric epic never gets banked. Ever. And bards were using their epics until instrument mods started getting added to other gear in the EPs of PoP.

I always broke it down like this to explain those epics (each tier eliminates the epic from contention btw) -

Best Epic for Entire Server - Cleric
Best Epic for a Raiding Guild - Bard
Best Epic for an Individual Player - Mage

Saving a bit of discussion, there were several other great epics that persisted - Rogue epics were worn for a long time in the range slot, Monk gloves lasted until GoD at the least.

As far as the Mage epic pet itself - it's just a beast against content. While mages still lack critical support things for some camps, it has a ton of uses. For one, you can bank a couple (3 to be exact) for splitting places, but even then I'd probably carry a bag of root nets.

There is no problem with the pet, which is a giant wrecking machine. I once trained up the KC basement and verix on my cleric to an epic mage. I'd root mobs, cheal the pet, and continue to root. After a few minutes the mage pet had chewed through all of the mobs. A mage can't do that solo, but I can't think of any other class that could do the same thing that fast or that easily. It's just a friggin beast. Don't forget the mage was still there as a casting class. The pet was easy to heal, did great dps, was a great tank overall, had a killer dmg shield, and we just really never were in trouble even though there were probably 10-15 mobs on us. I honestly thought the guild mage was joking when he said - just train it up, cheal the pet, and root mobs that he's not on. I trained them up as sort of a joke response - except he was serious.