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Old 08-22-2016, 03:25 PM
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totally agree @Mendo and thats what makes him fun- the chess match with all those kite going on. The encounter himself though cannot be face rolled without the proper raid make up and strategy.

I feel you could bring pretty much any type of raid force on a slowed ToV dragon and as long as the pull is clean the kill is pretty much in the bag. Getting a train to come down and wipe you seems to be the only way anyone fails to slowable dragons in ToV.
Cornering/Walling Gaters, letting CHers CH, and being really stupid eating AEs like Zlexak. Are a few other ways you could fail a slowable dragon.

But I agree with your sentiment. Slow is OP and trivializes far too much about the game, even in the raid scene.
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Old 08-22-2016, 03:29 PM
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Old 08-22-2016, 03:50 PM
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Old 08-22-2016, 04:02 PM
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omg if my druid could slow and Bind Sight....
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Old 08-22-2016, 04:14 PM
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Old 08-22-2016, 04:18 PM
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Old 08-22-2016, 04:21 PM
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As stated in my first post: it all depends on what you think is a smaller investment: how ever many 100k to down sont in a relatively short time, or 80 people spending hours clearing trash. Plus what are recharge costs on tunare encounter and clearing growth.

Edit: the answer is probably tunare, it's just people are willing to put forth the investment for some bis loot.
I get what you are saying but the thing is even if you blow a bunch of consumables you can still very easily fail an encounter with Sont, repeatedly, until you can't continue. The RNG factor on his encounter is so off the wall too. Growth does take a lot of time but the clear isn't too challenging; especially as you get more familiar with the strats. Sont requires more of every person in the raid and sometimes failure is literally beyond your control. ie: People get blasted into low health as they are feared. Or all tanks get feared and you have a turn.
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Old 08-22-2016, 04:33 PM
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Does it matter? Nobody plays this game the way it was meant to be played. It's like considering which poker hand is the toughest to get when half the cards in the deck are wild and the winner is the one who scoops the pot the fastest.
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Old 08-22-2016, 04:48 PM
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Does it matter? Nobody plays this game the way it was meant to be played. It's like considering which poker hand is the toughest to get when half the cards in the deck are wild and the winner is the one who scoops the pot the fastest.
I believe we should ban the forward pass, that isn't how football was meant to be played.
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Old 08-22-2016, 04:57 PM
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I get what you are saying but the thing is even if you blow a bunch of consumables you can still very easily fail an encounter with Sont, repeatedly, until you can't continue. The RNG factor on his encounter is so off the wall too. Growth does take a lot of time but the clear isn't too challenging; especially as you get more familiar with the strats. Sont requires more of every person in the raid and sometimes failure is literally beyond your control. ie: People get blasted into low health as they are feared. Or all tanks get feared and you have a turn.
If Tunare dropped the same loot as Sontalak would A/A kill her?
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