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Old 10-18-2018, 03:29 PM
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Its far less benefit than say just 1 extra friend. Thats how little it matters. (Sorry you all care and fight over it so much)
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Old 10-18-2018, 03:45 PM
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Its far less benefit than say just 1 extra friend. Thats how little it matters. (Sorry you all care and fight over it so much)
How about if your friend is rocking dem BiS slots? That's like BFFBiS!
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Old 10-18-2018, 03:45 PM
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I want to say that shaman and enchanter are probably the top contenders for best BIS mileage. An enchanter can solo alot of content without a surplus of gear but getting bis makes it less about luck. With an Aego and my 10th ring, my enchanter is pretty tanky and survived just fine getting ran over by a train in HS and my largish mana pool allows me to man handle adds and makes me much more capable of using mana hog spells like rapture and boltrans in groups. Being closer to bis on my enchanter also allows me to maintain max charisma while still having good stats which lower tier enchanters will struggle with.

Part of me wants to say necro because logically they benefit alot from extra gear like a shaman would except when I think about what content you will unlock as a necro having BIS I cant think of much (I'm still trying to collect a solid strat to solo emp chottal on my necro with strings and clickies)

I say shamans are a contender because while I have not played one, I think a shaman benefits in roughly the same way but are not limited like a necro.

In essence, I think content unlocking is where the answer lies because a top tier rogue probably cant solo anything worth while, same with a warrior, same with a cleric and so forth.

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Old 10-18-2018, 04:16 PM
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Old 10-18-2018, 04:49 PM
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shaman is the easy choice here.
Enchanters can survive a bit more if their pet breaks.
Necromancers with soulwell + more hp/mana can kill nonstop.
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Old 10-18-2018, 05:16 PM
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as far as op's question, that monk that has BIS shit and posts videos of him soloing everything kinda implies to me that monk BIS is the most powerful character in classic EQ

https://youtu.be/dwH5myJ6CIk?t=2

Altho Im sure a warrior could do the same, but having the utility of a monk makes them able to do more? What about SK?
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Old 10-19-2018, 07:56 AM
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Altho Im sure a warrior could do the same, but having the utility of a monk makes them able to do more? What about SK?
A Shadow Knight benefits from high-end gearing, obviously--but a Monk benefits more. Shadow Knights can reach or exceed the AC (soft)cap with readily-acquired mid-range equipment. Monks are a leather class with generally low AC on most of their lower- and mid-range equipment. However, for some reason they get a very high AC cap, so with high-end gearing they can sort of break class balance and become a character that does Rogue-level damage while having better overall damage reduction than anything but a Warrior using his discipline. Hence why their AC cap (and, I believe, return from AC as well) was in time severely nerfed--but nerfed during Luclin, not Velious, so it's outside P1999's scope.

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Old 10-18-2018, 06:15 PM
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From a class doing the class job in purely 1+1=2 sense... Monk by far. The way mend scales with gear is fairly broken. Warriors are a very close 2nd however. Nothing scales like warrior/monk mitigation thanks to broken lack of AC softcap here.

For a class to radically change its potential I'd agree with Gats that it's druids. No one class totally changes the potential of what is possible like a druid geared properly.

The least scaling class would likely be wizard. Nothing matters to a wizard except shissar elementalist's cane in raid scene or rend robe out of raid. Without those items you're about 4 or 4.5dps different when EC geared vs absolute BIS and max possible FT.

Everything else is just more survivability really. Enchanters in full BiS survive more often on breaks, they gain exactly zero power. Some HP regen etc yes with 10th ring etc. Shamans are much the same, you slowly pick up a few more mobs you can kill outright at peak turtle/defensive play efficiency and DS pots with max velious AC. A shaman in velious gear just kills stuff faster than one in kunark gear as you can afford to let torp drop for a tick per minute incrementally more often with every 50-60 worn AC increase.

Everything else is just par for the course really, your potential doesnt change, you just get better at what you've always been able to do.

Classes without their VP game changers vs with is the real discussion. VP is the defining zone for most classes.
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Old 10-19-2018, 07:47 PM
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From a class doing the class job in purely 1+1=2 sense... Monk by far. The way mend scales with gear is fairly broken. Warriors are a very close 2nd however. Nothing scales like warrior/monk mitigation thanks to broken lack of AC softcap here.
My favorite post that I read here so far but there are some very good ones from other authors too. I think pickup style groups will generally notice the added power of a BiS equipped toon the most when that class is tanking or perhaps doing very difficult or pummeling pulls on a regular basis. I suppose a monk could be a good group tank here on P99 with high aggro proc weapons? The defense of monks is apparently a much different story on TakP server.... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 10-19-2018, 07:58 AM
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Monk avoidance actually outclassed even warriors discs and the AC hardcap(there was a hardcap no softcap during velious) was easily reached hence Furor's massive bitchfest lol
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