SK epic vs other weapons, worth? - Page 4

Sonderbeast · #1 10-24-2018, 05:17 PM

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Draco, my 56 ogre war consistently hits 317 with the twisted steel while soloing.

My 51 Ogre SK hits upper 280s with spear of dawn. When I'm fighting undead, the 125 per tick DoT makes my dmg output stupid. Swap to my vyemm sledge and it's consistent 130s, with the 218 proc going off 4-5 times per mob. I will say it feels like I miss waaay more on the SK, but that's probably due to a 130 or so difference in dex?

SK isn't a "DPS class" but that doesn't mean you gotta lie down. Dots, procs and stupid ratio weaps make it passable.

just my 2cents

You miss more because your offense and weapon skillcaps are lower by level and by class, and you are comparing a piercing weapon to a 2hs. You are going to have more minimum hits and more misses due to those two hardwired aspects.

Idk what your point is about your big hits, thats irrelevant if you're talking about consistent dps. My parse with TSBS on HoT mobs is usually around 60, which is why I rarely use it to dps since Tunare blade and Dagas parse better.[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Chardy · #2 10-25-2018, 02:06 PM

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You miss more because your offense and weapon skillcaps are lower by level and by class, and you are comparing a piercing weapon to a 2hs. You are going to have more minimum hits and more misses due to those two hardwired aspects.

Idk what your point is about your big hits, thats irrelevant if you're talking about consistent dps. My parse with TSBS on HoT mobs is usually around 60, which is why I rarely use it to dps since Tunare blade and Dagas parse better.[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mis-read your post, "numbers" meaning long term DPS as opposed to upper range hits. After I proc primal, I definitely get a consistent upper range hit output on TSBS. I would assume if I keyed my SK, I'd probably see a more consisted 2h dmg output with avatar. I'll have to start parsing, as I'm curious what I could get my SK's DPS up to with Primal, Ntov weaps, aura of battle, and stacking DOTs.

I'm not sure where I'm even going with this...Maybe ill make a DPS cleric next.

Sonderbeast · #3 10-23-2018, 10:38 PM

at 60 you have your Feign Death spell, Death Peace, and your BE greaves click.

Octopath · #4 10-23-2018, 10:40 PM

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at 60 you have your Feign Death spell, Death Peace, and your BE greaves click.

Sorry I'm noob to sk, how does that benefit the sk? More chances to cast if one is interrupted?

Sonderbeast · #5 10-23-2018, 10:44 PM

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Sorry I'm noob to sk, how does that benefit the sk? More chances to cast if one is interrupted?

The casted spells have a long cooldown so having the legs to click instead or in addition really helps with pulling.

Danth · #6 10-23-2018, 10:54 PM

I knew a player who made an Iksar SK specifically for Greenmist. That was in 2013. Make a character with future content in mind is something you do at your own risk.

Usually when people talk about DPS, they're talking about sustainable DPS over a fairly long period, not bursts over a relative handful of seconds when the RNG happens to grant you numerous high hits in a row.

Danth

24kanthony · #7 10-23-2018, 11:04 PM

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Usually when people talk about DPS, they're talking about sustainable DPS over a fairly long period, not bursts over a relative handful of seconds when the RNG happens to grant you numerous high hits in a row.

For sure. I'd say that on most fights the dps of the spear is around 80. I do get the rare rng blessings that put me over 100 though, no matter how sad that might make Draconite.
I don't think it takes much math to determine that it's well within the range of rng possibility.

24kanthony · #8 10-23-2018, 10:52 PM

All I'm hearing is that you aren't able to do what I have and you're upset about it.

Sonderbeast · #9 10-23-2018, 10:54 PM

Put up or shut up liar

24kanthony · #10 10-23-2018, 11:22 PM

I have found 3 situations where the spear can be a big help; that's camps like sebilis crypt/emp, duels when the person has ring ds on, and laid back raids like HoT when there's plenty of monks to do the pulling and no green drake around. If we are doing one of those AE wurms, I can stay in the whole fight without any outside heals by blasting lifetaps and letting that spear off between casts. It's a fun toy but its delay and skill cap will really set me back if I'm using it in the wrong situation. I always hope that there is enough for me to do that I should not have it out.