Game Mechanics: Lyendlln's Lute

[Jomar]

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TLDR; Helsia shouldn't exist until Nov 2001, bowl of watery protection should be on Elna, and Mistress L should be in the spot Helsia currently is

Not sure if it was stealth patched at some point, but FWIW I saw Elna holding a bowl on Blue a few weeks back.

I do think the easiest solution is to just outright replace one of Helsia's spawn points in the keep/castle with Mistress Latazura. It might not necessarily be what it was during "classic", but it would get some of the SG items in the game that should be in classic (and The Behemoth's are also currently missing).

TAKP has Mistress at (-585, -278, -28) and Helsia at (-522, -306, -52)- which would put the Mistress in the Helsia spawn point where she's standing with another siren I think.

For more reinforcement- Here's a May 2001 post from Alla about the Sleeves of the Kelpmaidens mentioning them dropping from Mistress
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Here's a June 2001 archive from EQ'Lizer of the same sleeves being explicitly stated as dropping from Mistress-
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And then we have a Feb 2001 archive from EQ'Lizer, as well as a Mar 2001 archive from EQ'Lizer with screenshots of the Lute and Bow (items that have previously been shown as dropping from Mistress in other posts)-
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Cloak of the Seacaller should likely be on her drop table as well, as the listing has been around on Alla since Fall 2001 but I'm too lazy to look up more details. One of the replies in 2002 does mention it in her drop table at that point-
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Feb 2001 reference to Helsia Mindreaver (short video clip, not captured):
- https://web.archive.org/web/20010620...ws.cgi?newsall

Clan Icewind had a little fun in Siren's Grotto and Slain Servellious and Talendore! See some of the pictures and movies (about 2 megs each): Sev fight, Sev dies, SG#1, SG#2, SG#3, SG#4, Helsia Mindreaver dies, graphic bug.

March 2001 diary of a Siren's Grotto raid:
- https://web.archive.org/web/20050114...oto/200103.htm

3月17日

Siren's Grottに行って来ました。
はじめての攻略と言うこともあり、右も左もわからない状態ですが、Nearly　Lvl60の 4Party
で攻めてきいました。
感じ的にはKKの上位番といった感じです。
タツノオトシゴ、鮫、Water Elemental、Sirenが主なMobです。
タツノオトシゴと鮫はMezもDDもはいり、それほど強くない感じですが、Water ElementalはMez
は入る物の、AE Dispellを使用してきます。SirenはLvl54 Mezなら入るらしいのですが、Resiは
高いようです。

注意点としては、PETがなかなか言うことを聞かず、MobのCastに反応して、勝手にMo bを攻撃
し始めてしまいます。

これが原因のようで、Elementalx2、Sirenx3くらいのINCで1回目の壊滅をしてしまいま した。
PetがElementalに張り付いてしまい、AEで次々とBuffやMezがはがされてしまい、Cas ter陣が
次々と死んでしまいました。

奥へいったところに、Priestess SercemaというNamedがPOPしていました。
EllfaさんのRD PullでなんとかPullしてKill。
LootはRuned Sea Shellでした。

もう1匹Namedがいるということで、Rurukaさんに誘導してもらいずんずん進んでいき ます。
Mistress LatazuraというNamedがPOPしているようで、建物のなかからCastが聞こえてきます。

建物の周りにいる、タツノオトシゴをKillしているときに、死にかけのMobが建物に近づい てしまい、
Mistress Latazuraをはじめ、大トレイン発生＾＾；；
2回目の壊滅です。

時間も遅くなってきたので、CRをして解散となりました。

-- GPT-4o mini (Prompt: Translate the following to English: ) --
March 17

I went to Siren's Grott. Since it was my first time tackling it, I was completely lost, but I attacked with a nearly level 60 four-party group. It felt like a higher-level version of KK. The main mobs were seahorses, sharks, water elementals, and sirens. The seahorses and sharks could be mezzed and dealt damage, and they didn't seem too strong, but while the water elementals could be mezzed, they used AE dispel. It seems that sirens can be mezzed at level 54, but their resistance is quite high.

One thing to note is that pets don't listen very well and tend to react to mob casts, starting to attack mobs on their own.

This seemed to be the cause of our first wipe, as we were overwhelmed by about two elementals and three sirens. The pet got stuck on an elemental, and with the AE, buffs and mezzes were stripped one after another, leading to the casters dying one by one.

Further in, a named mob called Priestess Sercema popped up. With Ellfa's RD pull, we managed to pull and kill her. The loot was a Runed Sea Shell.

Since there was another named mob, I was guided by Ruruka and we proceeded deeper. It seemed that a named mob called Mistress Latazura had popped up, and we could hear casting from inside a building.

While we were killing the seahorses around the building, a nearly dead mob got too close to the building, causing a big train with Mistress Latazura and others. This led to our second wipe.

As it was getting late, we decided to do a corpse run and disband.

Out-of-era, but this description corroborates Ennewi's in-era findings from EQCleric:
- https://web.archive.org/web/20031031...shtml?zone=122

SG INFO
Posted @ Wed, Sep 4th 7:55 AM 2002
By: MandicusLifescourge

mmm kay seems like I never see anyone in sg these days so i'ma share the wealth.

Fellspine location: between well and the end of his tunnel opposite the well (end of tunnel has 4 exits with siren priest building above) placeholder is ALWAYS a coldspine seahorse
(yah this is the guy with the 10ac 4allstats 1allresists 0weight all all 35% haste belt.)

Helena Mindreaver loc : 2 spawn locations in mistress room... from cs entrance go under right side past seahorse, hold left wall to walkup... go up walkup and turn right. go over bridge, then immediately hang a left past the 2 water type servants into room... her 2 spawn locs are on far side behind the statue and are always seductress placeholders.

Mistress Latazura loc: same room, 2 spawn locations... placeholders seem to usually be enticers, but can be seductresses as well. first ph is standing on the wood stairs solo near the helena mindreaver spawns. 2nd ph is nearer the 2 sirens standing on the stairs, but closer to cs zone.

Priestess scerema loc: above end of fellspine tunnel, or go under right side from cs zone, past mistress building and follow right wall till you see it. big building with 2 servants out front, 2 on sides, about 6 total priests in the building, 6 normal sirens I believe... don't know which ones are placeholders cuz cleric mobs = annoying.

The behemoth loc: in the well, ph is always a servant of the mammal type. drops 32ac 20weight chain bp, 15ac 50hps 0weight belt, 13dmg 21dly -25ac piercer.

a siren sorceress loc: if go to scaffolding from well (where the tons of sirens are) behind the well there is a room with 2 servants out front, 2 sirens behind them, and a fish and sorceress in water. sorceress drops platinum dragon scale... dunno what its used for at this time.

elna kelpweaver: no clue... if its a neriad then it spawns in the small tunnel behind the well with the 3 neriads... if its a siren, then keep killin sirens on the scaffolding is my guess... i've never seen elna.

shimmering sea spirit loc: anywhere that only watery and icy servants spawn. (6 places at scaffolding, 3 at mistress room, tons in tunnels, 4 at priestess room) You gotta mass slaughter them to have a chance at this guy, cuz hes about a 1 in 200 spawn.

helena mindreaver: hits 270s, cleric mob, loves to nuke for 675s esp when yer tashed by the other sirens in the room. yellow con at 60 loves to drop aego scroll

mistress latazura: quads for 375s, chanter mob, like to charm early on, winds of tashanian, just yer garden variety meat slap contest after she runs outta mana. red con at 60, shes hard =P
drops spells like every other kill

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