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Old 11-21-2025, 05:53 PM
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Might be worth using Locustlure offhand. Leave it in for the first half of a fight and hope for a lucky proc, swap to a superior ratio offhand if you don't get one. 8/17 isn't great, but in the offhand you wouldn't be losing too much DPS.
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Old 11-21-2025, 10:18 PM
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Why was the Burning Rapier so bad? I guess the original version was even worse than the 7/20 one [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] like what was they thinking when they made this item.
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Old 11-22-2025, 05:31 AM
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Why was the Burning Rapier so bad? I guess the original version was even worse than the 7/20 one [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] like what was they thinking when they made this item.
You're looking at it through the eyes of post Kunark mudflation. You need to look at it as a first gen character still levelling up before even hate/fear/sky were out.
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Old Yesterday, 12:46 PM
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You're looking at it through the eyes of post Kunark mudflation. You need to look at it as a first gen character still levelling up before even hate/fear/sky were out.
Bad weapon at any point on timeline. Rogues are not good classic characters, and they didn't get fixed until Kunark with itemization.
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Old 11-22-2025, 10:32 AM
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Yeah if you run the weapon efficiency formula (dmg x2 +dmgbonus)/dly locustlure is real close to a jade mace at 60 and it beats all the 10/20 weapons. At 46 it might be worth it to just keep it main hand. Not sure how it would fare in backstab damage dps wise but if you can be bothered you might want to swap it for backstabs especially when you get double backstabs.

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Old Yesterday, 01:57 PM
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seb croak dirk best bang for buck all knows
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Old Yesterday, 02:12 PM
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100%. I run that on every rogue I make. It's such a fun pre-epic and a good swap to offhand post-epic. Entry level raid ratio. And teaches you the fundamentals of how to control a fast weapon with different types of tanks leveling up.
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Old Yesterday, 04:46 PM
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Swapping a single weapon slot by hovering an item is not hard.

If you are just talking ratio, 8/17 isn’t much worse than 10/18 once the damage bonus picks up. The slow makes up for that and then some. I’d rather rely on ratios or poison, with clickies ready to use than dancing to trick a “backstab from the front” but I play EQ lazily.

If you have ToV gear in your high 40’s it’s different but if shopping in of EC, the Locustlure and Seb dirk are solid items. The burning rapier really was killer when people still used EBW’s…but that was a while ago.

For a self camp I’d be looking to kill a Trakasaur. Any offhand would work with that; jade mace is an easy find.
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Old Yesterday, 11:10 PM
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@46 (7 dmg bonus)

Locustlure: (8x2+7)/17 = 1.353
Any 10/20:: (10x2+7)/20 = 1.300
Fester: (12x2+7)/23 = 1.348
Rabid chokidai fang: (14x2+7)/29 = 1.207

That's about the best OP could potentially have acess to unless he'd make an exception for SCD (1.500). Locustlure still beats other options in white damage outside backstab but if you want to minimize BS loss you could use it like a swarmcaller with minimal effort.

Side note: wiki rates locustlure as an ultra rare drop so that camp might not be worth the trouble for a 3k item. Scryer has a couple PH which could help a lot depending on spawn rate but he's a roamer in a high traffic area, you'd have to be on top of your game to not get it yanked by some other group around moats.
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Old Yesterday, 11:42 PM
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Those numbers are a great scale of how good a thing is. It's roughly 1-10 scale (Mrylo Dagger stats work out to 1.94 for reference).
So Locustlure is about a 3.3 out of 10 weapon. Seb Dirk is 1.5 at that level. So it's a 5 out of 10 and can backstab better. This is actually is a significant difference. It's worth buying with port money.

To summarize my thoughts on the Seb Dirk:
 
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