Comparison of melee hybrid classes.

[Bockscar]

Originally Posted by bakkily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

k what do you mean by jousting in pvp? or jousting in general?

You... haven't heard of jousting? Might wanna keep that to yourself. People are gonna laugh you off the server. I thought even the bluest farmer knew what jousting was.

[valithteezee]

Rangers usually got outjousted by sk/pally/warrior until kunark/velious unless they landed a snare. Not sure why everyone thinks they suck though. I remember in kunark I had a ranger with centi-ls and wurmy and he hurt like a bastard.

[lethdar]

Originally Posted by valithteezee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rangers usually got outjousted by sk/pally/warrior until kunark/velious unless they landed a snare. Not sure why everyone thinks they suck though. I remember in kunark I had a ranger with centi-ls and wurmy and he hurt like a bastard.

I remember when i had primal brawlstick on my lvl 30 classic monk in 1999, it was fucking awesome amirite?

[Bockscar]

No you didn't, centi longsword is a Luclin item. Snare can't be expected to land on anyone with proper gear, and this discussion is about pre-Kunark anyway.

[bakkily]

fine what ever, can just explain, but thanks for not wanting to answer, what ever

[bakkily]

k so i see what it means now, thanks, i figured it out myself =} still what ever bock

[Bockscar]

Originally Posted by bakkily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

k so i see what it means now, thanks, i figured it out myself =} still what ever bock

You're better off finding out by googling a guide. If I'd told you here in one or two sentences, you'd probably still have only a vague idea.

[valithteezee]

oh yeah, centi was luclin haha my B. Snare CAN be expected to land. What do you mean? It's got a very very low casting time and any ranger worth his salt is going to make sure he spams the hell out of it until it lands. Especially in the beginning people are not going to have MR resist items maxed.

[Bockscar]

Originally Posted by valithteezee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh yeah, centi was luclin haha my B. Snare CAN be expected to land. What do you mean? It's got a very very low casting time and any ranger worth his salt is going to make sure he spams the hell out of it until it lands. Especially in the beginning people are not going to have MR resist items maxed.

It depends how they code resists in the end, but assuming they try to get it as close to classic as possible and do a decent job of it, it's plenty possible for melees to get enough MR for spells like snare to virtually never land. If you want to spend the first 45 seconds of every fight trying to snare somebody, you're welcome to do so - you'll probably just die. Even if you do snare someone, you can't take any melee class toe to toe except maybe rogues, and most people will just pumice any root/snare that lands anyway.

The real problem with the ranger class is that it lacks raw power. They have lots of little tools and utility, but without the power to back it up, they're nothing. Unimpressive DPS, complete inability to do burst damage (jousting, big nukes, HT, melee crits, backstab etc.) and no real survivability the way paladins and priest classes have. Maybe if rangers were the ones with feign death instead of shadowknights, they'd have a place in high-end PvP. Since they don't have anything unique or valuable at all and lack an area of expertise worth mentioning, they're just the bottom-feeder class in classic.

[Crenshinabon]

Yea Valith thats what I was also thinking. Not to mention when it lands doesnt it last for minutes? Unlike root which you spam to have it stick finally for 4 seconds.

Also yea Bak, jousting is taking a big ass slow 2handed weapon and hitting someone with it then running away while swing timer is resetting, then running by them again for another large hit.