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Old 05-05-2016, 03:22 PM
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And neither won.

What an advantage to have. I'm so jealous.
I don't know how you lose with infinite jump. Have you ever tried racing somebody with 1 person jumping and the other not? Especially across a long distance?
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Old 05-05-2016, 03:24 PM
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I don't know how you lose with infinite jump. Have you ever tried racing somebody with 1 person jumping and the other not? Especially across a long distance?
See JCR not understanding a post before I typed that out.
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Old 05-05-2016, 03:27 PM
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I don't know how you lose with infinite jump. Have you ever tried racing somebody with 1 person jumping and the other not? Especially across a long distance?
Fingerz was rile jumping non stop from the start line til entrance of arena where he got stunned and we stayed neck and neck the entire way.
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Old 05-05-2016, 03:23 PM
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And neither won.

What an advantage to have. I'm so jealous.
Yeah it's only a big advantage when it helps you catch up. KoS and being in the lead it will just get you stunned/killed if you don't have faction in Kael. In ToV you can't do it while DA'ed which you will be if you are in the lead already. Soo...yeah GM's that understand mechanics would help out a bit. I don't think anyone blames Sirken. He tries his best to stop people from whining and the people that whine never understand the full gravity of the mechanics involved.
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Old 05-05-2016, 03:25 PM
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Nalk has one Statue FTE under his belt and I believe it was the following spawn or two after the video was submitted of him utilizing this 'progressive strat'

You are saying he did not Rile jump during that run up?

Fraps to prove innocent. Guilty until then.
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Old 05-05-2016, 03:30 PM
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Nalk has one Statue FTE under his belt and I believe it was the following spawn or two after the video was submitted of him utilizing this 'progressive strat'

You are saying he did not Rile jump during that run up?

Fraps to prove innocent. Guilty until then.
He was in the lead or at the lead for the fte he got the whole way. No reason to use it. Linking the fraps below. You only use Riles in areas you have faction and to catch up. KoS mobs will destroy you if you aren't DA'ed.

Nalken's FTE win with no Rile clicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kga6ZYQN5dY
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Old 05-05-2016, 03:41 PM
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He was in the lead or at the lead for the fte he got the whole way. No reason to use it. Linking the fraps below. You only use Riles in areas you have faction and to catch up. KoS mobs will destroy you if you aren't DA'ed.

Nalken's FTE win with no Rile clicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kga6ZYQN5dY
Nice run up - this proves you dont need to use the 'progression' BS to defend Crowns are required evil. They do nothing when you are in the front the whole time while levitating.

If he was behind, they most certainly help make up ground, and the primary reason they are outlawed. An item shouldn't be the reason a player can win over others if we are billing these as 'fair for all' races. It allows for players who have them to win whether they start off the line well or poorly, while those without them will never win if they have a really poor start off the line. Nalken obviously doesnt need to use them to acquire FTE.

Good job getting that aspect of the rules correct.
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Old 05-05-2016, 03:46 PM
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Nice run up - this proves you dont need to use the 'progression' BS to defend Crowns are required evil. They do nothing when you are in the front the whole time while levitating.

If he was behind, they most certainly help make up ground, and the primary reason they are outlawed. An item shouldn't be the reason a player can win over others if we are billing these as 'fair for all' races. It allows for players who have them to win whether they start off the line well or poorly, while those without them will never win if they have a really poor start off the line. Nalken obviously doesnt need to use them to acquire FTE.

Good job getting that aspect of the rules correct.
You are such a fickle idiot. It proves that everyone arguing against them don't understand how they are used. That there never needed to be players suspended for clicking them. Yet casual tears and not understanding how mechanics work got player or players suspended.
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Old 05-05-2016, 03:31 PM
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Nalk has one Statue FTE under his belt and I believe it was the following spawn or two after the video was submitted of him utilizing this 'progressive strat'

You are saying he did not Rile jump during that run up?

Fraps to prove innocent. Guilty until then.
I'm not saying he did or didn't, as I haven't seen that video. What I'm saying is that both of these guys were suspended without a rule ever being made about this. One person bitches about it on raid discussion and immediately it's against the rules? That's bad business.

I'm also saying that I haven't seen rile jumping perform any faster than regular sow/levi. In the video where Soju gets it on zulort, I stayed ahead of Nalken the entire time and you see his rile spam non stop. People just assume it's faster without actually knowing for sure. That's my issue.
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Old 05-05-2016, 03:34 PM
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And no one is even mentioning that FTE races boil down to latency and that latency boils down to your proximity to Rogean's nutsack.
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