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Old 02-11-2022, 11:01 AM
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Competition in live meant the hardcore players were ahead of the level/gear/content curve, not competing for the same targets with equal forces. I think this server's bizzaro esport everquest is fine for an obscure emulated ruleset. But deleting 10% of the velious content (warders) was obviously a detriment to that. But quakes and the draft are nice.
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Old 02-11-2022, 02:21 PM
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How is Furoar still allowed to play here ?

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Old 02-11-2022, 02:39 PM
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If you don't play, how do you know P99 is toxic? The forums are honestly much different from playing in game.
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Old 02-11-2022, 04:00 PM
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If you don't play, how do you know P99 is toxic? The forums are honestly much different from playing in game.
I played P99 extensively for years. I have friends that have played past and present. I'm well aware of how things have been over the years and the forums are enough of an indicator to me that nothing has changed since I last played. It's a nice thought that the forums aren't indicative of the state of the game but historically that just isn't true and I have no reason to believe that's changed.


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yup nice going

you just discredited yourself

also saying that classic eq is not competitive is halarious. everything literally

spawns in real time, forcing players to fight over scarce amount of mobs

and the only way to get perma banned on p99 is if you are toxic as shit, you box, or

RMT

so im gonna take everything you say for a grain of salt

As others have said there was very little fighting or competition over raid mobs on a lot of servers back in the day. Many servers had GM enforced raid rotations directly going against the idea of competing as you claim was the intent. Instances were implemented as a direct result of the fighting/competition over mobs starting to get out of control on some servers because..... wait for it... they didn't want pve raiding to be competitive! It's very fucking clearly not intended. You have to do some serious mental gymnastics to argue otherwise. Everything spawns in real time because the game came out in fucking 1999 before instance/phasing technology existed. It was literally the only way they knew how to do things. You're literally arguing that FTE race style competition was intended because they made the game the only way they knew how to do so at the time. That's some hilarious shit :P

P.S. I wasn't banned for any of the reasons you stated. Good guesses tho!
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Old 02-11-2022, 05:26 PM
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I played P99 extensively for years. I have friends that have played past and present. I'm well aware of how things have been over the years and the forums are enough of an indicator to me that nothing has changed since I last played. It's a nice thought that the forums aren't indicative of the state of the game but historically that just isn't true and I have no reason to believe that's changed.





As others have said there was very little fighting or competition over raid mobs on a lot of servers back in the day. Many servers had GM enforced raid rotations directly going against the idea of competing as you claim was the intent. Instances were implemented as a direct result of the fighting/competition over mobs starting to get out of control on some servers because..... wait for it... they didn't want pve raiding to be competitive! It's very fucking clearly not intended. You have to do some serious mental gymnastics to argue otherwise. Everything spawns in real time because the game came out in fucking 1999 before instance/phasing technology existed. It was literally the only way they knew how to do things. You're literally arguing that FTE race style competition was intended because they made the game the only way they knew how to do so at the time. That's some hilarious shit :P

P.S. I wasn't banned for any of the reasons you stated. Good guesses tho!
You know yer talking to brick walls and trolls at this point now, right? I kinda concluded(Personally) that the top 1-5% raiders "need" this server the way it is to continue having a reason so why not let them(it's a community-based server afterall) you never know what struggles they have. My only reason for posting was to take wall-staring out of the equation entirely cause it directly affects the persons health behind the screen unbeknownst to other members and the 'possibility of cheating' (Not saying OP is correct) enable other players to try to one-up said person. Also saying P99 is an E-sport needs to stop. This isn't Starcraft or some blizzard ranked game with a ladder system. Anyways eff this thread it should be locked! It was entertaining to me 50 pages of pure garbage.
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Old 02-11-2022, 05:37 PM
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You know yer talking to brick walls and trolls at this point now, right? I kinda concluded(Personally) that the top 1-5% raiders "need" this server the way it is to continue having a reason so why not let them(it's a community-based server afterall) you never know what struggles they have. My only reason for posting was to take wall-staring out of the equation entirely cause it directly affects the persons health behind the screen unbeknownst to other members and the 'possibility of cheating' (Not saying OP is correct) enable other players to try to one-up said person. Also saying P99 is an E-sport needs to stop. This isn't Starcraft or some blizzard ranked game with a ladder system. Anyways eff this thread it should be locked! It was entertaining to me 50 pages of pure garbage.
Claiming people are brick walls or trolls for disagreeing with you is silly. If the majority of the server agreed with you, they would have changed the rules, or the population would have tanked by now.

The continued healthy population of the server disproves any notion that the majority prefer something like rotations or instancing. Remember, TLP has been around for years, so people would have completely abandoned P99 years ago if they really wanted instancing/rotations.

Also, assuming a non-instanced MMO isn't competitive is equally silly. When scarcity exists, competition arises. If you don't want competition, play a game with instancing.
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Old 02-11-2022, 05:42 PM
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Claiming people are brick walls or trolls for disagreeing with you is silly. If the majority of the server agreed with you, they would have changed the rules, or the population would have tanked by now.

The continued healthy population of the server disproves any notion that the majority prefer something like rotations or instancing. Remember, TLP has been around for years, so people would have completely abandoned P99 years ago if they really wanted instancing/rotations.

Also, assuming a non-instanced MMO isn't competitive is equally silly. When scarcity exists, competition arises. If you don't want competition, play a game with instancing.
EQ isn't an E-sport.
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Old 02-11-2022, 06:06 PM
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If the majority of the server agreed with you, they would have changed the rules, or the population would have tanked by now
LOL this is the funniest post of this thread so far congrats

What the majority wants means nothing to those in charge. They have their goals and agendas that we can argue over but rest assured they will pursue whatever it is that their vision/goal is regardless of what any of us want. If I've learned anything playing/spectating this server for 10+ years that's it. Also all jokes aside there's a large amount of people with addiction and mental health issues on this server. Like not even saying that as an insult/troll I legitimately believe that to be the case. They won't quit under almost any circumstance.
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Old 02-11-2022, 05:51 PM
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My only reason for posting was to take wall-staring out of the equation entirely cause it directly affects the persons health behind the screen
This is really not a great argument either. Sitting on your ass doing anything directly affects your health negatively. It's not like being addicted to the wall-staring model of EQ is any more or less healthy than being addicted to the modern WOW clickfest version of it.

You should really leave the health question out of any future attempts to persuade people about how the server is run cause it makes no sense.
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Old 02-11-2022, 05:55 PM
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This is really not a great argument either. Sitting on your ass doing anything directly affects your health negatively. It's not like being addicted to the wall-staring model of EQ is any more or less healthy than being addicted to the modern WOW clickfest version of it.

You should really leave the health question out of any future attempts to persuade people about how the server is run cause it makes no sense.
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