Racism: the Dying Regime

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Racism is fake, shits just promoted by the government to keep people divided. Check out the shit they teach kids in school nowadays grades 1-12 everyday all day its all about how bad whitey is.

That's because without a doubt, whitey is an american invention. South Africa was an anomaly.

[Vineyea]

Racism is just as real as any other social contrivance you want to name. Some of the people here are going to make it a point to be antagonists out of spite and mean spirit. In America it's a right of the people to have their speech uncensored and to that regard you can expect that if there's a volition to be the bearer of preconceived notions, disagreement, and malice one person or another is going to stand up and fill that role.

Your internet alias has more to say about you than does the color of one's skin to say about what they are.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Vineyea [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Racism is just as real as any other social contrivance you want to name. Some of the people here are going to make it a point to be antagonists out of spite and mean spirit. In America it's a right of the people to have their speech uncensored and to that regard you can expect that if there's a volition to be the bearer of preconceived notions, disagreement, and malice one person or another is going to stand up and fill that role.

Your internet alias has more to say about you than does the color of one's skin to say about what they are.

If this were true the word "******" wouldn't be strictly associated with "black" people in the year 2013.

I know more white ******s than ******s of all other races combined and it has nothing to do with their taste in music.

[Malice_Mizer]

This thread is beyond hope.

How have you all gotten this far in life with such simplistic attitudes about the world around you? Good Christ, you act like the world came into existence when you were born, and that everything that came before us is just a figment that "mean people" keep alive because it benefits them somehow.

It is baked into the cake of the American experiment. No slate is wiped clean, as you all suppose for some reason. History does not go away, and collective memories run deep and painful.

You're all too proud and too ignorant to have an honest discussion about this.

[Vineyea]

That's irrelevant to the ontology of the judgment. Racism isn't an empirical fact, it's an agreement between peoples. Much like the English language is a social institution on a very fundamental level. We've got this background commonality that's essentially the product of agreement and even though there's no universal law suggesting English ought to be the spoken language of any and all rational beings it has a very real existence in our everyday lives.

[Rhuma7]

Racism will never be obsolete. The words white/black/african-america/hispanic in itself is racism.

African american is the most racist ignorant description of a person I've seen predominantly used in american culture. Calling a black dude an african american is racist, more than likely he ISNT from africa and if that was a legit term for someone from africa a white person could be an african american and thats just not how it works.

The black ethnicity is much much better off than before the civil rights movement. Just because we have a "black" president doesn't mean racism is dead and I am of the firm belief racism will never be dead. The way we have handled the race subject in itself is securing its future in american society.

Until we do not see skin color as a race, racism will never truly die.

This post was filled with racism, look at all those ignorant racist terms!

[myriverse]

It's not racist to acknowledge the differences. It's just racist to think one is better than another.

[Malice_Mizer]

Originally Posted by Vineyea [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's irrelevant to the ontology of the judgment. Racism isn't an empirical fact, it's an agreement between peoples. Much like the English language is a social institution on a very fundamental level. We've got this background commonality that's essentially the product of agreement and even though there's no universal law suggesting English ought to be the spoken language of any and all rational beings it has a very real existence in our everyday lives.

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[Rhuma7]

Originally Posted by myriverse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not racist to acknowledge the differences. It's just racist to think one is better than another.

There isn't suppose to be any differences lol

You're reply is exactly what I was talking about, how the general consensus of america is there is a race difference which = racism.

[Malice_Mizer]

Originally Posted by Rhuma7 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There isn't suppose to be any differences lol

You're reply is exactly what I was talking about, how the general consensus of america is there is a race difference which = racism.

You're putting the cart way ahead of the horse, friend.

First of all, racism in America is the expression of a racial supremacist ideology through power and force. In this way, only white people (being the dominant group for multiple centuries) can actually be racist. You're claiming that everybody is prejudiced and holds unknown bias deep in their hearts. That's not racism. A "black person" being distrustful of white people because they've been marginalized their entire lives and their parents were victims of systematic and institutional racial violence by the police during the Civil Rights era is not "racism." It's just not. We're all participants and victims of a racist social order. Individuals are not "racist." We all contribute to it in our own ways.

That being said, the way a society progresses is not to jump from one generation of being attacked by the police for wanting the right to vote into the next where nobody recognizes or sees skin color. That's naive and deluding yourself if you actually believe anybody can actively not see skin color. It is intimately tied into our socialization and how we categorize our world and understanding of it, especially as Americans. Our entire national history is a story of race and struggle, almost entirely.

We can't simply go from centuries of enforced white supremacy to saying, "Oh, well shit, sorry about that guys! Let's just not see race anymore because that's easier for us to repent for the past and not own up to the horrors this country was built upon."

To pretend skin color doesn't exist is an egregious crime because it denies people the ability to reconcile the past, come to terms with our collective history, and move onward from it. We're not there yet, and to jump into color-blindness would do everyone, especially the victims of racial injustice, a grave disservice.