Spells: shock of lightning

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

kirban was a hacking fa__ot and i didnt play a wizard. so ya im gonna say it wasnt UNresistable. way more people are better geared here than live, that is just a fact. logically, i dont see why the original devs would have made that spell unresistable and not the other shock spells with a knockback.

i read some of the shit you linked. one was a post about a new player getting pked. ofc it landed, he probably had zero mr.

Chaotic Feedback, Shock of Blades, and Poison Bolt all landed like a lure with high resist mod on them. They were specifically made this way to add the dynamic of timing nukes in pvp, could they be resisted Yes in the same sense a lifetap could which I saw once in my entire time on live. None of these spells did much dmg they were solely used as an interrupt so skill based pvp wasn't reduced to spamming the same nuke.

No one would have ever used these spells in pvp if there were even a 30% chance to be resisted as they would have led to a death vs lifeburn/manaburn there would have been no such thing as interrupting spells in Luclin everyone would have ranged every cast. Without these spells every caster could only have been killed via Rapture landing or melee stun as no one could have interrupted a gate but melee's or enchanters.

Everyone in Ruin/Vindictive had 150-200+ MR and yet I fought Kronar, Kriban, Catylenne, Jacylenne, Cattibrie, Macken daily using P.Bolt on my necro to interrupt, shock of blades on my friends mage, and shock of lightning on my wizard daily.

Sorry but they had Vex thal/Ntov gear nobody in Kunark could compare to Vex thal geared toons and suggesting such is ridiculous.

If all the Wizards here are stating that Shock of Lighting was never seen to be resisted from classic then it's UP TO YOU TO PROVE IT! Not us! Show some screenshots of people pre POP resisting SOL in pvp. Something I saw maybe once on live classic era.

Kringe, Lime, Murda, Barcode and everyone else I've spoken to from Live agree on this.

[Syft-X]

Shock of Lighting I know for a fact remained to be set to this near unresistible level until planes of power where it was replaced by Lure of Thunder(Which had the funny graphic of making the target look as if they were drowning like splurt or shaman epic) that had the same knockback effect.

Shock of Lightning was not removed in POP but it no longer landed in pvp even against low MR(100ish) targets after POP. I do not know if Shock of Blades, Poison Bolt or Chaotic Feedback were also changed in POP.

[FaithlessKR]

Originally Posted by Syft-X [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

planes of power where it was replaced by Lure of Thunder(Which had the funny graphic of making the target look as if they were drowning like splurt or shaman epic) that had the same knockback effect.

Lure of Thunder had no knockback effect, at least get your facts right if trying to bring stuff up.

It had a 0.1 second stun effect on it that would instantly interrupt spells rather than relying on pushback interrupt.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Syft-X [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Chaotic Feedback, Shock of Blades, and Poison Bolt all landed like a lure with high resist mod on them. They were specifically made this way to add the dynamic of timing nukes in pvp

got prof? I don't remember devs EVER mentioning this. Also if all your experience comes from SZ then that is pretty much Luclin + and noone gives a shit. It makes no sense why they would choose only those 2 low level spells to be flagged unresistable. In REAL classic, people had NOWHERE near the amount of resist gear the average joe has now. I ran around with 50-60 mr and was constantly hit by most things even blind after malo'd. You give far too much credit to what people were wearing in classic or you are just making shit up.

I'll be watching this thread hoping that actual proof is posted rather than some 11 year old forum posts from 2003. One trend that goes for all spells in classic is that they are easier to land on mobs than players. Explain to me this reverse thinking process they used for these 2 specific spells?

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

got prof? I don't remember devs EVER mentioning this. Also if all your experience comes from SZ then that is pretty much Luclin + and noone gives a shit. It makes no sense why they would choose only those 2 low level spells to be flagged unresistable. In REAL classic, people had NOWHERE near the amount of resist gear the average joe has now. I ran around with 50-60 mr and was constantly hit by most things even blind after malo'd. You give far too much credit to what people were wearing in classic or you are just making shit up.

I'll be watching this thread hoping that actual proof is posted rather than some 11 year old forum posts from 2003. One trend that goes for all spells in classic is that they are easier to land on mobs than players. Explain to me this reverse thinking process they used for these 2 specific spells?

So no one resisted Sol during Classic, Kunark, Velious...you say it's because they didn't have good enough gear during those era's.

So I say they didn't resist SOL during Luclin either when their gear vastly exceeded Classic, Kunark, Velious era. And insanely surpassed peoples gear here

And you say Luclin era didn't count cuz it wasn't classic...

Lawyerquesting at it's finest!

Got proof of Dev's mentioning Crimson pots to break root? Got proof of Dev's mentioning spacebar makes you jump? Or that dwarfs barrel roll when they jump? Nah because everybody knew about this stuff, HTF you played live and never knew about interrupts is beyond me because every pvper of any skill knew this stuff.

I'll be watching this thread for you to post proof of people resisting SOL in PVP during this era, we shouldn't have to prove to bad pvper's what every good pvper knew.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Syft-X [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So no one resisted Sol during Classic, Kunark, Velious...you say it's because they didn't have good enough gear during those era's.

So I say they didn't resist SOL during Luclin either when their gear vastly exceeded Classic, Kunark, Velious era. And insanely surpassed peoples gear here

And you say Luclin era didn't count cuz it wasn't classic...

Lawyerquesting at it's finest!

Got proof of Dev's mentioning Crimson pots to break root? Got proof of Dev's mentioning spacebar makes you jump? Or that dwarfs barrel roll when they jump? Nah because everybody knew about this stuff, HTF you played live and never knew about interrupts is beyond me because every pvper of any skill knew this stuff.

I'll be watching this thread for you to post proof of people resisting SOL in PVP during this era, we shouldn't have to prove to bad pvper's what every good pvper knew.

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[SamwiseRed]

ps, i just read the rest of those links. i wouldn't consider ANY of it proof, more like a bunch of newbs talking out their ass.

[Colgate]

thank you for your 15 year old anecdote on pvp in the luclin and beyond eras

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thank you for your 15 year old anecdote on pvp in the luclin and beyond eras

Thanks for your remarks about an era you never played and have zero knowledge of pls show proof that shock of lightning was resisted in pvp...

http://ralloszek.stephans.org/rz/pla...yer_name=cwall

You never played classic Everquest and shouldn't even be commenting on these bug reports

[Colgate]

my favorite part was when you described their armor from vex thal

man luclin was a great expansion