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[Colgate]

you can never escape the quest

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you misunderstand; i legitimately do not care if there is an "opposition" or not

i don't misunderstand

i'm saying the server is just about dead, you are saying you'd enjoy a pvp server without any opposition

seems the same really, except you'd enjoy that kind of thing while i don't [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ragnaros]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why doesn't your guild put pressure on empire?

by your own concession, you are the problem here

reading comprehension not your strong point eh?
didnt claim i wasnt part of the problem
but lets not ignore the fact that it wouldnt be such a big deal if you didnt recruit literally 50% of the server if not more that are in 60 range

[Ragnaros]

but yes i agree the current oppositions attitude is ONE of the issues of the servers state

[Beastagoog]

Originally Posted by Ragnaros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but yes i agree the current oppositions attitude is ONE of the issues of the servers state

Couldn't agree more.

Wins PvP over mobs for the 1st time in their history: pushes timer so far out of peak time that when they log in to kill said mobs they are 60-80% of server pop.

Yerp opposition really looking 2 help progress server.

[Beastagoog]

Originally Posted by Bundy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

eliminate YTs. People so hung up on stupid board kdr. Is why newbie groups get killed: people want to pad it. Its why binds are camped. Eliminate YT and pvp board pop will go up. people will stop hugging ZLs and battle because there wont be the kdr thing over their heads. Fights become fun and not on a permanent record and people won't grief to pad their numbers.

Been saying this for years...make YTs zonal or...continent only.

[Ragnaros]

Originally Posted by Beastagoog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Couldn't agree more.

Wins PvP over mobs for the 1st time in their history: pushes timer so far out of peak time that when they log in to kill said mobs they are 60-80% of server pop.

Yerp opposition really looking 2 help progress server.

Naw pushing timers on mobs to give yourself an advantage isnt really what i meant, its tactical and smart IF your guild can constantly sustain a raid force at that time to down it. It takes 15 players to kill dracolich and even less for the golems.
Behavior that is really killing the server is the #1 guild is fielding 50+% of the level 60 population while another issue is that there isnt another guild that is even attempting to grow and progress and/or even attempting to kill things in NTOV with a dedicated effort. Shit was left up for weeks, Friends isnt a raiding guild but if anyone on the opposition is complaning about not getting raid mobs ( casual scum included) then look in the mirror and put some work in because its certainly possible. Ikatar can pretty much be killed with 20 people maybe less. Dain can be done by 40

[Ragnaros]

The way the server works is that if you arent willing to hold peoples hands and feed them gear then you will get recruits at a lesser rate. It kinda sucks but thats the way it is, and carrying people isnt interesting to alot of people.

[Bundy]

yea who knows maybe then people will contest and not be like "nah dude too risky, dont want to screw up my kill/death ratio".... they might actually attempt to contest. even if they fail can just get their corpses and not have the record kept (yea someone could still take a screen shot but it's not going to blow up globally, except ooc hearsay accounts, or be kept as a statistic on another webpage to reference). can give it the old college try. people thought nihilum was unbeatable and holo/empire eventually took over. just trying to help here. cant win if you don't try.

TLDR version: eliminate YT and at least try contesting. or don't and basically live at the POM zone out tree and sky shrine zonelines

[Bundy]

and i agree with Rag. that stuff was left up. could have banded together to kill it. CS and friends could probably kill some of that NTOV stuff. especially if so many weren't SKs and made clerics and warriors for CH chains and defensive discs.