Esoteric Knowledge Thread

[shovelquest]

Always thought those were Centaur Shiites

[Ekco]

The Quantum-Precognition Connection (Speculative Theories)

Retrocausality: This concept, which arises in some interpretations of quantum mechanics, suggests that an action in the future could influence an event in the past. Some researchers hypothesize that this quantum retrocausality could be a mechanism for phenomena like intuition or precognition, suggesting that information from a future cognitive state "leaks backward" into the present consciousness.


Consciousness Theories: Some non-mainstream theories, like the Orchestrated Objective Reduction (Orch OR) model, suggest that consciousness is a quantum process occurring in the brain's microtubules. Proponents of these theories sometimes propose that the quantum nature of consciousness could lead to entanglement across time, offering a potential, albeit unproven, physical basis for precognitive experiences.

https://archive.is/20250812210631/ht...ion-explained/

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs...00130003-6.pdf





precogs from The Minority Report are prolly real.

[shovelquest]

I feel like if that stuff was real shouldn’t like a villain have been able to like take over something with it at some point in history?

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel like if that stuff was real shouldn’t like a villain have been able to like take over something with it at some point in history?

If it was real and they had, how are we to know whether they did or didn't? Surely by its very nature it could be concealed.

[Ekco]

they've proven it's real but its like pointless small shit and not a cool X-Men mutant power or anything.

still werid it exists at all, and we haven't progressed in our understanding of it really since a dude called it Spooky 78 years ago, just those laser expirements concluding "yep, shit's spooky alright."

"I cannot seriously believe in it because the theory cannot be reconciled with the idea that physics should represent a reality in time and space, free from spooky actions at a distance".

[Ephirith]

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The Quantum-Precognition Connection (Speculative Theories)



https://archive.is/20250812210631/ht...ion-explained/

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs...00130003-6.pdf


precogs from The Minority Report are prolly real.

Orchestrated Objective Reduction is such a fun theory, if a bit fantastical. The whole concept of wave function collapse tickles my cockles.

Retrocausality: This concept, which arises in some interpretations of quantum mechanics, suggests that an action in the future could influence an event in the past. Some researchers hypothesize that this quantum retrocausality could be a mechanism for phenomena like intuition or precognition, suggesting that information from a future cognitive state "leaks backward" into the present consciousness.


Consciousness Theories: Some non-mainstream theories, like the Orchestrated Objective Reduction (Orch OR) model, suggest that consciousness is a quantum process occurring in the brain's microtubules. Proponents of these theories sometimes propose that the quantum nature of consciousness could lead to entanglement across time, offering a potential, albeit unproven, physical basis for precognitive experiences.

I feel like this is extra fantastical for a quantum mechanics theory, because one of the fundamental assumptions of most quantum mechanical applications is that randomness exists, and therefore the universe is not deterministic (ie, it does not have linear time with a fated sequence of events).

Intuitively, retrocausality and randomness probably can't both exist-- how could something leak back from the future if random events can happen between now and then? But then, maybe it's human bias to view time the way we do through our limited lens of only living in one slice of it, and it actually works far differently.

This was the great scientific debate in 20th century physics and frankly my favorite mystery about the universe; Einstein believed the universe was deterministic, randomness did not exist, and Niels Bohr believed the opposite. Bohr's camp is widely regarded to have been vindicated by discoveries since then, but it's a question we're still trying to put to rest even today. The 2022 Nobel Prize was awarded to a team that basically eliminated one of the determinism folks' loopholes that they could use to claim linear time/determinism existed in spite of the supposed randomness we observe.

[Ekco]

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i smell burnt toast

[Ekco]

speaking of mutants though, the police are hiring them apparently. we'll grow the precog twins in a vat to fight crime eventually

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[atomicpaul]

that's like those people who work at airports and have to guess people's ethnicities as they walk by lol

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Orchestrated Objective Reduction is such a fun theory, if a bit fantastical. The whole concept of wave function collapse tickles my cockles.



I feel like this is extra fantastical for a quantum mechanics theory, because one of the fundamental assumptions of most quantum mechanical applications is that randomness exists, and therefore the universe is not deterministic (ie, it does not have linear time with a fated sequence of events).

Intuitively, retrocausality and randomness probably can't both exist-- how could something leak back from the future if random events can happen between now and then? But then, maybe it's human bias to view time the way we do through our limited lens of only living in one slice of it, and it actually works far differently.

This was the great scientific debate in 20th century physics and frankly my favorite mystery about the universe; Einstein believed the universe was deterministic, randomness did not exist, and Niels Bohr believed the opposite. Bohr's camp is widely regarded to have been vindicated by discoveries since then, but it's a question we're still trying to put to rest even today. The 2022 Nobel Prize was awarded to a team that basically eliminated one of the determinism folks' loopholes that they could use to claim linear time/determinism existed in spite of the supposed randomness we observe.

I really liked the show DEVs