The Server's Best Players

[Grozmok]

Fuck this, I vote myself.

Just ask the group that I trained.

[Xatava]

worst of each class @ level 60 would be a more entertaining thread

[Rais]

I'm down for a BOTB

[Adnan]

best ench mezeno!

[astuce999]

I don't think that at this point in the game, anyone can be "the best". If you play your class optimally, people will notice, but a lot of people can play that class optimally.

The people who usually notice, are actually good players themselves. To be polite, they'll say things like "this group is really good!" or "it's been a while since I've been in such a good group".

One good way to identify if you're the catalyst in the "good group", is that when you say you have to log, all of a sudden everyone else has to go pretty much at the same time. Then, for fun, if when that time comes, you say "I've managed to be able to stay for another hour", for some magical reason, they too can stay for that extra hour.

For some classes, it's easier to shine than for others. The perennial example is the enchanter; a great enchanter will easily draw praise from other players. For other classes, it's a lot more subtle, especially DPS classes since the only time they will be noticeably on the radar is when they fuck up (i.e. a rogue that draws aggro and keeps draining heal mana).

Some classes are known for their solo skills, so they are pretty obscure to other players, and when they get groups people don't really know what to make of them and they won't know if they're good or bad (necros and wizards come to mind).

Pullers are usually only recognized by other pullers, since the rest of the group is oblivious to the difficulty of what happened before the mob came single to where the group is (a famous line from the movie Sneakers: "That's not easy what I just did there!").

Healers and tanks, while cornerstones of any group, will rarely get props for doing what they're supposed to do, but it will happen more than dps'ers (i.e. "nice timely heal there, purple club", "thx for getting that off of me, I thought I was done for").

And then there's Bards. 12 fucking years and people still don't have a clue on what they can, and cannot do, including some people who play the class. It's the only class that other people feel no hesitation in telling them on how to play, like they are some kind of jukebox ("play mana song" anyone?). Unless the person praising you is also a full-time bard, when they do compliment you, it's still only on what they think you are doing, which is usually about half of what you actually are doing.

cheers,

'Stuce

[Danyelle]

I'm the best stupid player =D

[Savok]

Originally Posted by astuce999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And then there's Bards. 12 fucking years and people still don't have a clue on what they can, and cannot do, including some people who play the class. It's the only class that other people feel no hesitation in telling them on how to play, like they are some kind of jukebox ("play mana song" anyone?). Unless the person praising you is also a full-time bard, when they do compliment you, it's still only on what they think you are doing, which is usually about half of what you actually are doing.

[Autotune]

haha, I don't compliment bards, they are as bad as wizards at afking.

[username1337]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

haha, I don't compliment bards, they are as bad as wizards at afking.

Only good bards are ones who can constantly twist, mezz multiple mobs, pull, snare, etc.

When I played bard I couldn't log in without getting several tells for groups. Yet the best xp I ever had was duoing with a warrior who purposed kept health low for crippling strikes. Since snare is perma-aggro I could run in circles while warrior crippled over and over...killing mobs very quickly.

Bards are definitely a class that can shine if played by talented players.

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by astuce999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think that at this point in the game, anyone can be "the best". If you play your class optimally, people will notice, but a lot of people can play that class optimally.

The people who usually notice, are actually good players themselves. To be polite, they'll say things like "this group is really good!" or "it's been a while since I've been in such a good group".

One good way to identify if you're the catalyst in the "good group", is that when you say you have to log, all of a sudden everyone else has to go pretty much at the same time. Then, for fun, if when that time comes, you say "I've managed to be able to stay for another hour", for some magical reason, they too can stay for that extra hour.

For some classes, it's easier to shine than for others. The perennial example is the enchanter; a great enchanter will easily draw praise from other players. For other classes, it's a lot more subtle, especially DPS classes since the only time they will be noticeably on the radar is when they fuck up (i.e. a rogue that draws aggro and keeps draining heal mana).

Some classes are known for their solo skills, so they are pretty obscure to other players, and when they get groups people don't really know what to make of them and they won't know if they're good or bad (necros and wizards come to mind).

Pullers are usually only recognized by other pullers, since the rest of the group is oblivious to the difficulty of what happened before the mob came single to where the group is (a famous line from the movie Sneakers: "That's not easy what I just did there!").

Healers and tanks, while cornerstones of any group, will rarely get props for doing what they're supposed to do, but it will happen more than dps'ers (i.e. "nice timely heal there, purple club", "thx for getting that off of me, I thought I was done for").

And then there's Bards. 12 fucking years and people still don't have a clue on what they can, and cannot do, including some people who play the class. It's the only class that other people feel no hesitation in telling them on how to play, like they are some kind of jukebox ("play mana song" anyone?). Unless the person praising you is also a full-time bard, when they do compliment you, it's still only on what they think you are doing, which is usually about half of what you actually are doing.

cheers,

'Stuce

You make some very interesting points. I'd like to add that I think it is very hard to judge the skills of people whose abilities surpass your own. I've played a lot of druid over the years and I've noticed two druids who really stood out: Prospect and Petros. I played a lot with Prospect and only a little with Petros. I can say with confidence that Prospect is a better druid than I am and I think Petros is, too. My few interactions with Kindadar were impressive, too, and Ploktor definitely produces impressive results but I've never seen him in action on his druid.

I've also played a lot of cleric. It's hard to stand out as a cleric unless you suck. Your group either survives, in which case everyone takes credit, or else you wipe a lot. I've never seen a particularly standout cleric on P99. Someone mentioned Getsome early in this thread. Either he learned to play after being in IB for six months or else the person posting that is delusional. Getsome was a terrible cleric early on.

Finally, I've played a lot of tank. I consider this the weakest role on P99. I've never seen a really good warrior, much less a great warrior. Poor mob awareness, poor target selection, poor aggro build, poor positioning. Really, really bad warriors. I think this might be one of the hardest classes to play, because you have to use all your little tools correctly all the time. I've seen a lot of SKs brag it up because they could pull with CoS, then their mob goes running at low life because they didn't bother to snare. Someone else also mentioned Ektar as best paladin. That was a joke, right?

I've seen lots of impressive things from enchanters and shamans, but all I really know is that there are a bunch of people better at playing those classes than I am. That French monk (Sochin?) and LedZepp from DA also really seemed to have their shit together as a pull team. Emil was a solid puller, too, but he worked alone a lot of the time and that just doesn't work as well.