Who lays claim?

[iamjacksrage]

^ lol is this like a fan club starting here? didn't think i was important enough to have a fan :-D

[Abacab]

No one mentions the fact that I managed to run Draco all around the firewall and wipe Abraham's smug ass with an AoE [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Bossco]

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[Loke]

Originally Posted by Bossco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow. So much hate for IB, and we're not even the guild cockblocking everyone else...

Bossco, you know we're cool and all, but really? IB has been cockblocking every other guild on this server for months now.

[Aeolwind]

TL;DR. To answer the original question: A raid force does not require guild tags. 15 is 15. If it did, pick up groups wouldn't be even considered and could be ignored, and that is not the case.

[fefifofum]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bossco, you know we're cool and all, but really? IB has been cockblocking every other guild on this server for months now.

Amen! lol

[Beau]

cant just let the players duke it out themselves? do they really lack that much of a real social life that they have to control every little thing in their little pirated felonious illegal world they made

In Classic EQ, Gm's really couldn't intervene like they do here on player agree'd raid rotations/rules. The only thing they could do is check logs to confirm who first engaged and who attempted ks/ninja, if that were the problem.

Any sort of player made rules was on honor system and enforced in one way or another by the players. At least on my server.

[Beau]

More on that...

The argument in live classic was, player made rules were generally agreed upon by a group of players, not ALL players, outside of the game on a player administered webpage that was not outlined as a game requirement in the eula.

Technically, it is NOT classic for a GM to intervene for clarification, punishment or "deathtouching the raid and despawning the mob." The Gm can watch to make sure it's pulled, killed and looted fairly. But to enforced player agreed rules is not legit .

I really love this server , And really love what you guys are trying to do here, but thats just a gross abuse of power, and far far from classic ruling. You ban people for ninjalooting, kiting trains, stealing established pulls, and many other reasons. Not for having the first force to kill a mob (first force to kill is first to engage. if you can sit there for 20 minutes and cant pull it first, you cant kill it)

Thats just my two cents, feel free to flame away if you disagree. I just think this current system is really silly.

[GagIuk]

I'm ban evading again so this got edited out.

[iamjacksrage]

I'm pretty sure it's not IB as a whole. I've met a few players in the guild who were overly generous to me on many occasions.

Since we're on the topic of childishness, you might wanna try blaming the individuals and NOT the whole guild.