HAVE U TRIED RED YET?

[kylok]

Originally Posted by Uuruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can we get a blue server chat added please?

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[Swish]

I think if roles were reversed the blue community would like a shout out to try and improve its server population.

...and it really isn't hard to ignore the odd red post that appears here. By posting in it you're giving it a free bump. What does that make you? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could just stop clicking on threads labeled "Blah blah RED blah blah" since it bothers you so much. No one is forcing you to read these. You choose to open them, knowing that you don't want to, read them, and then complain about reading them.

Just seeing them shit up the front page of server chat is what annoys me personally, not strictly the contents within the threads themselves. Im annoyed by constant red recruitment threads just as much as id be annoyed by jehovah's witnesses/mormon missionaries at my door or telemarketer phone calls. Sure I don't HAVE to talk to them and listen to what they have to say but for someone to be ridiculed for being annoyed by them is dumb.

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, I believe this forum section is called... "General Community". So there's that.

Ive heard this excuse before and its a pretty ridiculous one. The sections specifically for blue server guilds, raid scene, trading, etc. are all also listed under "General Community"

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Wrench [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol'd at the progression of your posts in this thread

come join red, cause pvp -> never been killed by a twink -> avoid zones with people, cause pvp

Yep, this is it exactly. Most of the people who are trying red are doing it because they want it to be a less crowded version of blue. And at the low levels, that's what it is. Until you hit 56.

Originally Posted by Pheer

Im annoyed by constant red recruitment threads just as much as id be annoyed by jehovah's witnesses/mormon missionaries at my door or telemarketer phone calls

+1. Especially when the title of the thread is in all caps with an abbreviated u.

The simple fact of the matter is that the vast majority of people here do not want to play on red.

[kylok]

So strange that people don't want to pvp on a pvp server.

[quido]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

might be on that page somewhere

This doesn't even make sense ya moran. I'm not even making an argument. I'm just calling people pathetic weaklings.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This doesn't even make sense ya moran. I'm not even making an argument. I'm just calling people pathetic weaklings.

Join red today or youre a pathetic weakling guys

[quido]

Again you demonstrate autism-level reading comprehension. My disdain here is directed at those who have joined the red server already and cry about every dumb thing.

[Pringles]

All my buds migrating to red [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WTB one way Char transfers to red and im there.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by The Bears [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No need to over think it. GM's were mad that habitual recidivist repeat offenders were scoffing at the disciplinary actions by just releveling characters. In a weekend of shitting in tube socks they could be back 55+ with a VP key and acquiring phat pixels to use against their opponents. An ill conceived action was taken: nerf exp. The result was that the bottom half of the server dropped out and the shitsocking people already committed stuck around.

GM's rotated on their thumbs for 3.5 months and decided to implement the experience bonus required to attract people to play on Red where the toxic community makes the experience so horrendous that the carrot the draw them into the upper levels must be huge.

Don't feign ignorance, there is no riddle. GM's best was piss poor and a poor intervention. GM's not being retarded, only misguided, chose to rectify their mistake and try to resurrect the server. Mission accomplished, gains made, play if you want.

Stop using this one-off comment Sirken made on a stream as the sole justification for the XP nerf. It had nothing to do with banned players leveling quickly. We had always planned to put a new, different XP bonus in, but the implementation got delayed because a developer got busy with real life things, as we explained multiple times all over the red forums. See my post earlier in this thread:

Originally Posted by Derubael

I have no idea why this explanation has become so popular and widespread. Banned players no longer being able to level up quickly was a side-effect, not the primary reason. You can find an exhaustive list/rant of why the XP bonus was removed here. It really had nothing to do with banned players at all, it was about helping to foster a stronger community and reduce the high turnover rate. I think with all the changes that were made (level range reduced, SolB/Perma no level-limit removed, XP, OOC when it eventually starts working as intended) we've been able to accomplish that, along with a strong effort by the Red community to welcome new players and work to fight against the trolls.

Nerfing XP "Just to keep banned players from leveling quickly" would be the worst idea ever.

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just seeing them shit up the front page of server chat is what annoys me personally, not strictly the contents within the threads themselves. Im annoyed by constant red recruitment threads just as much as id be annoyed by jehovah's witnesses/mormon missionaries at my door or telemarketer phone calls. Sure I don't HAVE to talk to them and listen to what they have to say but for someone to be ridiculed for being annoyed by them is dumb.

That's fantastic. Fortunately, you don't have to listen - it's as easy as not clicking the thread. If it annoys you that much to see "Red thread" in server chat, you might need to take a step back from the keyboard. Or, as I suggested earlier, take it to RnF.

Originally Posted by Pheer

Ive heard this excuse before and its a pretty ridiculous one. The sections specifically for blue server guilds, raid scene, trading, etc. are all also listed under "General Community"

So I'm guessing the "Starting Zone", "Technical Discussion", and "Off-Topic" sub sections are also blue only? Where do Red players go for those sections?

I'm not going to argue about this anymore - unless it gets out of hand (which it hasn't), the Red posts in "Blue" Server Chat are not going to go away. The posts complaining about them, however, will. A lot of time, effort, and work was put into the Red server lately by both the Development team and the CSR team, and we're thrilled that the red community (and a good number of people from the blue community as well!) want to share this experience with people from both servers.

Let's try to remember that we all love and play Everquest here, regardless of whether we enjoy PvP or not.