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Old 01-08-2011, 10:39 AM
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Most high level people are pretty nice, in my exp, about sharing camps. I know I am if you approach me about it politely. But this sense of entitlement because we are high level and you are not, therefore we owe you something, gets zero respect from me.
Sir, if you read the OP, you'd see that I specifically said I asked politely.


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Bingo.

Don't know about others, but ask nicely, and I'll be on my way. "Demand" that I move? Uh, no. Who the hell are you, and why should I accomodate you when you clearly have no respect?
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:47 AM
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But really? Here's the "sense of entitlement". Your level 50 character that you worked so hard to make isn't spending his time doing something like camping a piece of loot or fine steel weapons to sell, which I can respect. He's being paid by some other character to take a fast track through the leveling process and blast through the levels instead of playing the game how it's meant to be played. Which is fine, except that this SINGLE person is getting in the way of SIX people who are actually trying to play the game as it's meant to be played, who maybe can't afford your power leveling services, who maybe would happily accept the PLee into their group (say they have five people instead of six), except he's gotta have it his way, he's gotta level as fast as possible.

You're putting the needs of one person over the needs of six, is where the "sense of entitlement" comes from, and you're doing it for what's essentially an exploit, bypassing the entire point of the game. And again, I have no problem with that in theory, but for fuck's sake, have the decency to do it somewhere or sometime that a ton of people aren't regularly trying to legitimately EXP, or share the camp with them, or PL everyone simultaneously - do ANYTHING other than just hog the entire fucking camp for a single lazy lowbie.
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:54 AM
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So the guy paying for powerleveling is a lazy exploiter, but the paupers who want it for free are playing the game how it's meant to be played.

Are you for real?
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:59 AM
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Obviously you're good at the video game. Just as obvious, you suck at Everquest.
Wow, ZING! Yes, I'm the one who sucks because I spend my time on camp disputes in Unrest and then I start flame threads about it.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:05 AM
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So the guy paying for powerleveling is a lazy exploiter, but the paupers who want it for free are playing the game how it's meant to be played.

Are you for real?
You're kind of missing the point. I don't demand free PLing; I just said that it's an option that's preferable to keeping the entire camp for a single person. I'd be just as fine (in fact, I'd be happier) with the PLer and the PLee just heading off to another area or zone. Yes, if six or seven people at once are being PLed then it's still not playing the game exactly how it's meant to be played, but it's not greedy as fuck, which is the actual point of this whole thread.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:21 AM
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You're kind of missing the point. I don't demand free PLing; I just said that it's an option that's preferable to keeping the entire camp for a single person. I'd be just as fine (in fact, I'd be happier) with the PLer and the PLee just heading off to another area or zone. Yes, if six or seven people at once are being PLed then it's still not playing the game exactly how it's meant to be played, but it's not greedy as fuck, which is the actual point of this whole thread.
No, you, sir, are missing the point. The point is that if you get to a camp that you'd like and someone is already there, you can attempt to negotiate for the camp or you can wait your turn, just like everyone else. It doesn't matter if it's a solo farmer, a twinked duo, a group of brand new characters or an entire raid guild who decided it would be cool to lock down evil eye for weeks.

Wait your turn.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:22 AM
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No, you, sir, are missing the point. The point is that if you get to a camp that you'd like and someone is already there, you can attempt to negotiate for the camp or you can wait your turn, just like everyone else. It doesn't matter if it's a solo farmer, a twinked duo, a group of brand new characters or an entire raid guild who decided it would be cool to lock down evil eye for weeks.

Wait your turn.
You're right that those are the camp rules. But it's possible to be a completely law-abiding citizen and still be a gigantic douchebag.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:26 AM
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Let me remind you that you're the one who can't resolve his camp disputes who then runs to the forums to whine.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:44 AM
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Let me remind you that you're the one who can't resolve his camp disputes who then runs to the forums to whine.
I mean that's what this forum's here for, right? Isn't a rant essentially a whine with an angry face on? Anyway, the camp dispute was resolved: the PLer kept PLing and my group got shitty EXP on the first floor. Whoo.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:47 AM
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No, this forum is for that Lazortag loser to stalk me from thread to thread and spam a bunch of tags on every thread I post in because he's STILL butthurt that I trolled him in that guild name thread.
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