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Old 09-11-2019, 04:01 AM
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You can still make a hotbutton in the socials tab with "/pet get lost" and click it while casting. This is working, just tested it.
or even just typing out "/pet get" while the new pet summon is casting. Plenty of time for it.
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Old 09-11-2019, 04:51 AM
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You can still make a hotbutton in the socials tab with "/pet get lost" and click it while casting. This is working, just tested it.
It always confounded me that buttons in the abilities bar are able to do so much more than the exact same button in the hotkeys bar.

I know that disparity in functionality is classic, but, like, why? Was this a design choice? Was there some compromise in integrating the hot button window? Were the abilities window meant to be as limited as the hotbar buttons, but as an oversight were left to be clickable much more of the time or vice versa?

Such are the mysteries of Everquest.
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Old 09-11-2019, 05:09 AM
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It always confounded me that buttons in the abilities bar are able to do so much more than the exact same button in the hotkeys bar.

I know that disparity in functionality is classic, but, like, why? Was this a design choice? Was there some compromise in integrating the hot button window? Were the abilities window meant to be as limited as the hotbar buttons, but as an oversight were left to be clickable much more of the time or vice versa?

Such are the mysteries of Everquest.
Lol, I'm willing to bet that it was one of those things that wasn't caught until wayy later, then it's probably "too late" with code stacked and stacked on top of each other. Probably needed a revamp, was too much code to unbury to make it worthwhile. Betting the classic devs just said f it.
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Old 09-11-2019, 03:30 AM
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Thanks, Rogean. This seems like a very reasonable decision.

Recreating a classic feel and experience 20 years after classic actually ended isn't trivial. We all want to go back 20 years, to our childhood (well, at least those who are 30 y/o or older I suppose), but you can't, whatever you do.

So it will always be an imperfect experience - you simply don't enter the same river twice.

Things like 3rd person view, target cycle hotkey, pet window, fast zoning, stable servers, good knowledge of the game aren't classic, but they help having a server with a lot of population.

Nothing is sadder than an EQEmu server with no pop.

There's no doubt that there will always be people advocating a return of even more drastic, classic features to P99, such as the stone UI, removal of target cycling, enforcement of full-screen, removal of camera chase view, lock to 5 FPS at 800x600, etc etc. But these die-hard classic advocates, all put together, respectfully, represent a tiny, tiny portion of the total user base, probably not even 1 percent.

Most of us just want to have a chill casual experience recalling the good old days back in 2000 when we could simply play EQ all day without worrying about tomorrow, when life seemed infinite.

Big props to all the team for allowing us to do just that, for free (!), for the last 10 years.
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Old 09-11-2019, 03:45 AM
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> Pet bars return with caveat
Awesome, that works. Cheers for the compromise! Understandable that there's a line between classic and "modern classic" - makes decisions tough, sometimes.
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Old 09-11-2019, 05:10 AM
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Congrats pet classes.
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Old 09-11-2019, 05:38 AM
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Old 09-11-2019, 05:40 AM
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I wanted to take a minute to address the backlash regarding our recent UI changes. Namely, the removal of the Pet Window and Secondary Hotbars.
Hi Rogean, thanks for your gracious decision to allow custom UIs again on blue - can you please also remember re-enable rightclick on the UI Windows again so we can lock/move them etc. All my windows are locked and I can't move them lol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-11-2019, 05:40 AM
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Old 09-11-2019, 07:08 AM
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Just fyi If I understood right the custom ui was disabled before this patch on the last one? Asking because mine was still viewable when I logged in. I don't know if it was because mine was already set up or what. I use a fairly old one for my druid though with a green leaf background. In any case I wanted to mention that in case if something needed to be fixed to prevent that when setting up the disable ui feature on the green server. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On the update itself. Sounds fair to me mate. I do want to point out as well and can vouch for this regarding the anti-virus concerns. I've been playing off and on for some years now and my pc never pooped the bed because of any patch I downloaded off this web site. Take that for what it's worth, but this is one of the very few emulator projects I would even actually feel safe to recommend to someone. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And really the only one as far as EQ goes. Mainly because of the longevity and stability of this project. Nothing against any of the other projects or teams out there. Just the servers for P99 have been the only emu servers I personally know of that have been up for as long as it has with out any character wipes and over all decent community support all the way around from my experiences in the game. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to mention really if you want to play past this time period you may as well play on live. It's free to play anyway and don't need to subscribe really until your up to about at least level 85 I think it is. That's a decent amount of content for free. Anyway my point is this a decent and safe emulator project and I wouldn't worry about viruses. I've never had a problem and I seriously doubt anyone who's been around here for any amount of time has either. So relax and enjoy the classic game play experience mates. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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