P99 Forums- the worst (past or present) source of play information for classic/EMU EQ

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I tried hard to be a good source of rogue information, over and over and over again.

Like any sort of education it's a never-ending job. Soon as you've taught one group of players, a new group of newbies arrives to take their place.

[Polycaster]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I tried hard to be a good source of rogue information, over and over and over again.

click 'assist the assist' macro
click backstab as it comes up
click 'evade' macro as it comes up
click pickpocket
click on corpse instant its dead to get the few coins left after pickpocket


rogue master class completed

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Polycaster [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

click 'assist the assist' macro
click backstab as it comes up
click 'evade' macro as it comes up
click pickpocket
click on corpse instant its dead to get the few coins left after pickpocket


rogue master class completed

You would think, huh? I guess you missed my seminar on getting your epic guildless. Or maxing poison with all vendors, that's actually on the wiki now I think. Or stat targets for gearing. Or setting up a two person corpse drag macro. How to compare offhands. Why push matters (does that still break spells?) Why dark elf rogue is best choice.



There's a lot of eclectic shit I learned during my safehouse years which isn't immediately apparent to someone picking up the best class in the game.

[Zal22]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why dark elf rogue is best choice.

That PD robe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Smellybuttface]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You would think, huh? I guess you missed my seminar on getting your epic guildless. Or maxing poison with all vendors, that's actually on the wiki now I think. Or stat targets for gearing. Or setting up a two person corpse drag macro. How to compare offhands. Why push matters (does that still break spells?) Why dark elf rogue is best choice.



There's a lot of eclectic shit I learned during my safehouse years which isn't immediately apparent to someone picking up the best class in the game.

[Gatorsmash]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your argument for going +25 wisdom is that you get 6 extra mana at level 1?

SMART

I like how you actually typed that out then capitalized the word smart smart.

Originally Posted by Tuljin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So this is when you take your ball and go home? Good

Jesus I could hear the QQ through the interwebs

Originally Posted by Smellybuttface [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Palin pic

I laughed more than I should have for probably the wrong reasons at that. Guess were in the timeline where people are clip n pasting from a 20 year old site and slapping their name on it, greeaat.

[Smellybuttface]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You would think, huh? I guess you missed my seminar on getting your epic guildless. Or maxing poison with all vendors, that's actually on the wiki now I think. Or stat targets for gearing. Or setting up a two person corpse drag macro. How to compare offhands. Why push matters (does that still break spells?) Why dark elf rogue is best choice.



There's a lot of eclectic shit I learned during my safehouse years which isn't immediately apparent to someone picking up the best class in the game.

I'm actually very curious on a few things:

-Why would dark elves make the best Rogue? They have the lowest starting strength, lowest stamina, lowest dexterity. They have evil faction so aren't welcome in most cities, and other races can simply get the Guise to have the dark elf look and ultravision.

-Even the P99 Wiki states that poisons are generally poor.
"Unfortunately, they aren't used much. Some of them are situational such as muscle lock IV procs, which are good for soloing if you're a rogue with high enough intimidate but the slows/snares/debuffs are weak in group/raid content and offer not a whole lot of benefit. " I remember playing on live, and it wasn't until Shissar poisons came out that I ever saw Rogues even starting to use them.

Lastly, were you saying they are the best class in the game? That's entirely subjective I guess, to a point. Curious why you think so.

Pro's:
Sneak/hide is useful, as is snagging corpses, lockpicking (at least for a few doors - couple in Old Seb, Chardok, and maybe 1 in City of Mist). Exp bonus is nice. Consistent DPS. Easy epic quest. Low pop numbers means they have a good chance at planar drops.

Con's:
Very group dependent (not necessarily a con), Evade can be unreliable (not nearly as good as Feign Death or Jolt for dropping aggro), extremely gear dependent (Classic offers little in the way of good piercers), generally won't top DPS parses until they get their epic, low level of utility outside pure DPS

Anyway. Certainly don't have anything against Rogue's, you just mentioned some things I haven't ever heard before.

[Cecily]

Everyone is the same-ish stats in the end. Some of them can wear BIS pretty blue dresses. Dark elves can and they also confuse the shit out of people because the mask existing trips a bug in most people's code. This is kinda funny.

[roboshaman]

+25cha for humans, some combination of str, cha and agi for erudite clerics...its a no brainer for me who would rather be a soloing cleric

[Bardp1999]

SPOILER: Really nothing besides level matters on P99, gear is largely meaningless