The Bard Problem

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by jerus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My finger wouldn't last that long.

Thats what your boyfriend said.. NOOCH

[jerus]

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Proposing non-classic solutions to a classic problem is asinine*. Also, it gets a lot harder the more mobs you get, because at a certain point if you slip up even once during your 5+ minute kite, with enough mobs, you're just going to instantly die. You make ae kiting sound easy, and it's really not, especially to be any good at it. I've done it for probably 24 hours of play time and still die quite a bit doing it. It's difficult, it's risky, and it gets harder the more mobs you do it with. I would wager that anyone who says otherwise has never even tried it here.

*for this server

That's exactly it. I can do like 5-7 mobs where I am now and survive a round, add that 8/9 mob and i don't know so it makes it much more stressful and you are more careful meaning a longer kite, and then still if you screw up at 5% on the mobs and die, all that time was wasted and have fun finding a rez hehe.

[shdwdrake8]

Originally Posted by Azazel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Heres an idea, start grouping in dungeons where bards cant kite.

[packmule]

Originally Posted by SublimeChowder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the case of the OP,




It's only unfair if you try it and are unable to do it properly.

notice why I stopped playing a bard anyway because of this....

[Nevron]

Proposing non-classic solutions to a classic problem

The classic solution was to nerf PBAE so it wouldn't work if the mob was moving.

[SublimeChowder]

Originally Posted by Nevron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The classic solution was to nerf PBAE so it wouldn't work if the mob was moving.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but 'classic' here generally refers to Launch-Velious era EQ, right? Bards were able to AoE kite up until at least GoD. There was no classic solution to Bard AoE kiting. It's part of classic Everquest.

[Nevron]

Yes, the PBAE nerf was 2004 (after this server's time) but it's sort of classic (closer to then than now). I wasn't offering it up as a "good idea", just as a counterpoint.

It seems from the postings that a lot of bards play here specifically for AoE kiting. Nerfing it would presumably mean a lot of them would quit. I don't really want to spoil it for them if that's what floats their boat.

On the other hand, maybe there are more bards who don't like the "bad rep" they get because of the extreme kiters, and would actually like it better if that wasn't the only thing bards were known for.