Dirty Hippies Whining For A Free Lunch

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Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and, yeah, most homeless people are crazy.. the one chick in that movie was claiming her cup from mcdonalds was a priceless gift from halfway around the world.. it was thrown out and she was distraught over it. one of the guys said, "it's... a cup... from mcdonalds... you .. can get more..."

you can get more, but it's not the same [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've experienced this and am well aware that by and large most fit this bill. Not everyone does, which was the entire point of my post.

Yeah, but when you have a conversation about government spending, hand outs,welfaire and almost everythign else that hasbinbad has been posting about this week it is unfair to the goal of the discussion to bring up these little miracle stories about underground homeless republicans who do civic duty while living on the streets.

They are exceptions to the rule.

I am all for helping out people in need because after the past few years everyone needs help and I'm pretty sympathetic to the occupy movement for the MOST part they are just being drug down by smelly hippies that the true meaning is being muddled.

I'm getting off track...

In short most people on welfaire do not deserve it but that does not mean that everyone on welfaire is a loaf or lazy but we just need a better reform to get rid of the parasites.

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you can get more, but it's not the same [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol that's mean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In short most people on welfaire do not deserve it but that does not mean that everyone on welfaire is a loaf or lazy but we just need a better reform to get rid of the parasites.

That's pretty much what I want. I hope you clicked the link from that post.

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Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's pretty much what I want. I hope you clicked the link from that post.

I did not.

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Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's depressing to read and you will never change their closed minds.

I don't understand people who think that way. I especially don't understand Christians...oh i'm sorry "Christians" who are against any sort of program that helps underprivleged people.

you have to understand. I believe in helping out people who are in a bad place no matter what the reason they are there. i love them where they are at and hope that encourages them to improve and grow. *shrug*

Amelinda, from my experiences most people are pretty closed minded. Don't paint it as an 18-26 conservative rich kid thing; liberals, anarchists, etc are all just as closed minded. I've gone through graduate school and worked for Congress and you would be surprised at how many professors, politicians, senior advisors, etc have no real world experience with the welfare system or its recipients. They read something on some liberal blog, hear it on msnbc, or take something out of context from political theory, and no amount of logic and evidence will change their mind.

As for the Christian comment, its just like any group. I think Christians, for the most part, are willing to go out of their way and to do what it takes in order to help people. There are a lot of drawbacks to our current system though - its hard to tell who really needs help, there is no accountability system, there is no limit to the generosity, no incentive to get off the system, and they have no control over who gets the help. Most people, Christians included, aren't going to keep giving money to someone that spends it on drugs and comes back for more.

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Amelinda if you think most of the people on this forum are conservative, you seriously need to take a better look.

[Dazen]

Someone needs to be held accountable and they needs to pay for me and all my kids!!
This sums up all of you OWS douchebags

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bavou...eature=related

[Aadill]

Indeed, from what it looks like "somebody" is a reference to one of the 3 fathers who refused to pay child support.

There is a lack of personal responsibility in this individual in terms of saying, "holy shit I should stop," yes, but you have failed to make a connection between some random youtube clip and the actual problems at hand.

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Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why are you starting all of these effing political threads? why are there so many political discussions going on - this isn't a political discussion board. i'm just curious as to why. i don't really care. but tbh i don't read the threads because all they turn out to be are a bunch of kids aged 18-26 who seem to have been brought up privlege who are stuck on the far conservative side and think everyone who receives wellfare should be put to death or something similar. it's depressing to read and you will never change their closed minds.

I don't understand people who think that way. I especially don't understand Christians...oh i'm sorry "Christians" who are against any sort of program that helps underprivleged people.

hbb there are like two people on these forums who have a remotely humanitarian leaning it seems sostarting these threads doesn't generate 'fun discussion' so much as it causes rage (at least in me) :P

you have to understand. I believe in helping out people who are in a bad place no matter what the reason they are there. i love them where they are at and hope that encourages them to improve and grow. *shrug*

There's a big difference between being a good person, helping the less fortunate out, and advocating the government take money from Group A to give it to Group B, no matter how much Group B needs it. That is simply dividing up stolen property. It's easy to be generous with other peoples' money. Hell, half of Americans don't pay any income taxes. For them to be so willing to support spreading this tax money is easy, as they have no skin in the game.