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Old 11-16-2020, 10:41 PM
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Yeah leftists are insane and completely unable to be reasoned with. This is why the democrats totally failed on all downballot races in this election. People think "defund the police" and "the green new deal as envisioned by a 15 year old highschool sophmore" are fuckin crazy proposals, because they are. Liberals are considered "right wing" now by said insane leftists.
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Old 11-16-2020, 10:43 PM
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People think "defund the police" and "the green new deal as envisioned by a 15 year old highschool sophmore" are fuckin crazy proposals, because they are.
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the green new deal requires leveling cities and rebuilding them, it's such a joke.
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:26 AM
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i just want people in other states to get the healthcare i have, which saved my life. it's not my fault the CIA attaches crazy shit to it to discredit it.

The good news is the green new deal is so stupid and contrary to industry that you never ever have to take it seriously when brought up. It's just a pandering mechanism.

Defund the police, however, has enough traction to be scary. I wish there was a White-centric progressive party.
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:56 AM
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the green new deal requires leveling cities and rebuilding them, it's such a joke.
Well I could totally imagine a social worker doing 90% of police work, I heave two police officers in my direct family so I have had a little bit of experience with the day to day of police work, Im not just being a total libtard here.

90% of police work, would be better served by someone with social work training. its the vast majority of their day to day.

Also what makes a social worker incapable of being an authority figure? I hunt, I keep what I kill. I can also understand the value of social work. Why couldn't I be a good police officer since I believe in social work?

Ill never understand why things that make sense become devisive issues.

Like social workers, how is that a like "Hah social workers couldnt possibly be a police officer"

It makes no sense to me, how did that come to pass that people think there is a difference between the average police officer, and a social worker? The average police officer in like 50% of americas states is overweight lol

I could go on all month about this.

Police work.

Is social work!

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edit I will go on all day! lol

If we had social workers on the police force back when ruby ridge happened the weever familyy would be a family!

Back in Waco all those kids there would be worshiping just like survivors of the branch Davidians are today!

When did the swat team, become the traffic police?
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Old 11-17-2020, 01:11 AM
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Jibartik what are your thoughts on oregon decriminalizing small amounts of hard drugs like heroin, meth and cocaine?
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Old 11-17-2020, 01:19 AM
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george floyd was having a mental health breakdown. just 1 social worker in the crew to turn things back from a militant posture would have saved his life. Instead it was all very ugly ego and force games, just because they couldn't fkn stand for 5 seconds by the open door of the car and explain. I've had a medically induced freakout like that, where physical escalation would have reflected into me regardless of my own safety, and the idea that some cop would pin me to the pavement with a knee on my neck is so gross.

The plastic "spit hood" from iraq that suffocated that guy who puked is another case of punitive measures where practical would be better. Like, make the spit hood permeable or put a small frame inside it so there's space. A single review by a person who wasn't a head stomper would have detected this process anomaly.
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Old 11-17-2020, 01:22 AM
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george floyd was having a mental health breakdown.
False he downed a bunch of Fentanyl when the police pulled him over. After he tried to pass off counterfit money and made a big deal out of the cashier not accepting it. So they called the cops on him.

Juicy world also downed pills(fentanyl) so the cops wouldn't find it. after he found out they were going to search his aircraft.
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Old 11-17-2020, 01:30 AM
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False he downed a bunch of Fentanyl when the police pulled him over. After he tried to pass off counterfit money and made a big deal out of the cashier not accepting it. So they called the cops on him.

Juicy world also downed pills(fentanyl) so the cops wouldn't find it. after he found out they were going to search his aircraft.
The fact that he had passed counterfeit checks is not relevant.

Overdoses of opiates don't make you panic and flop like a fish. The coroner's report did not report a blood level clearly indicative of lethal overdose. If he had any tolerance, it wouldn't have been. This is not to say it is impossible that the bag didn't break late into the fight and then he flash-OD'd, and that some of the drug was metabolized before the coroner drew blood (fentanyl has a short half-life). But I surely wouldn't speak in absolutes when I don't know for sure.

All I know is, he was freaking out and saying he had anxiety about going back to jail, and anxiety about going into the dark of the cop SUV. Clear indications of need for some sort of counseling aid. Things became physical (in the sense that he was writhing nonthreateningly) when they ran out of patience and tried to jam him in there. In the confusion, he died for whichever reason it was. If he hadn't been driven into an animal freakout, the OD you theorize would have been witnessed as such and very possibly his life saved with a narcan pen (all cops carry them now, at least around here).

The fact that you bring up nonsequiturs about his criminality and speak surety where it doesn't belong betrays your animus. Criminality, especially nonviolent, doesn't leave a person undeserving of decency from the system we embody.
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Old 11-17-2020, 01:31 AM
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Jibartik what are your thoughts on oregon decriminalizing small amounts of hard drugs like heroin, meth and cocaine?
Oregon is a crazy town made up of people that moved there to join that sex cult back in the 90s and when it broke up they all just filled out all over the state that's what I think lol

As for Floyd, Id like to just say you can see the officers become agitated with Floyd because they were not properly trained how to deal with someone who was either A. having a mental breakdown, or B. downed a bunch of Fentanyl.

IMO officers should work harder to not become agitated and if that means they need bachelor of social work to become an officer so be it. Most of those are free at community colleges and can be obtained while on the job.
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The fact that he had passed counterfeit checks is not relevant.
Actually it is, it's proof of his character.
And it wasn't checks it was a counterfeit $20 bill.
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Overdoses of opiates don't make you panic and flop like a fish. The coroner's report did not report a blood level clearly indicative of lethal overdose. If he had any tolerance, it wouldn't have been.
I never said how the police handled the situation was ok, it wasn't even if it's some sort of training in some book.
The autopsy report did state he had lethal levels of Fentanyl in his system.

Stop doing drugs, period. (you've openly admitted on this forum to using drugs)
Get your head and facts straight.
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