Any Young-Earth Creationists? - Page 7

Tenlaar · #1 02-28-2013, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well actually everything I've said is already proven fact but just like every other controversial proven fact in history, the majority is always against it until one day it just becomes common sense. In fact let me give you a perfect example of how people like you are like a boulder for the human race that intelligent people like me have to carry.

Yes, it's clearly the people who don't make up convenient answers to difficult questions who are holding humanity back from the great advances to be made by welcoming the flying spaghetti monster into our lives.

Here's a little tip: just because you or any other nutjob believe it doesn't make it fact, no matter how much you want it to.

Hailto · #2 02-28-2013, 05:33 AM

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Pretty pathetic how you dumb ass atheists proclaim to be intelligent and yet the best argument you can supply consists of posting gif's or logic consisting of exactly what you accuse creationists as using. Just know that you're literally holding back the entire human race with your blatant stupidity.

Yeah, atheists are definitely holding back the human race. Why don't you go ahead and name some backwards practices that atheists typically engage in. I can start naming off the same done in the name of religion and we will see who comes up with the longer list. Religious belief has no place in modern society and contributes absolutely zero to further human advancement. Make a stupid argument, and you will get a stupid response.

Clark · #3 02-28-2013, 05:35 AM

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Yeah, atheists are definitely holding back the human race. Why don't you go ahead and name some backwards practices that atheists typically engage in. I can start naming off the same done in the name of religion and we will see who comes up with the longer list. Religious belief has no place in modern society and contributes absolutely zero to further human advancement. Make a stupid argument, and you will get a stupid response.

^ didn't have enough love, guidance, and friendship growing up rofl, so he blames the world

Hailto · #4 02-28-2013, 05:43 AM

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^ didn't have enough love, guidance, and friendship growing up rofl, so he blames the world

Not blaming the world, blaming adults who still have imaginary friends. Luckily that number is steadily decreasing.

Hailto · #5 02-28-2013, 05:34 AM

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Actually the gods of ancient mythology were real people that actually existed and still do. They are simply very advanced beings that were called gods because of their technology. They too however were created by God but this is a completely different discussion. I will say this tho, there is an ancient text by Apollo stating that the gods were ordered by Jesus to leave the planet, several hundred years before he was born. So how does Apollo...a supposedly fake person, know about or even have a conversation with someone who hasn't even been born yet? Unless of course Apollo was a real person and Jesus really is who he says he is.

Also please don't post anything this fucking stupid and then attempt to insult the intelligence of anyone else.

I really hope you are trolling.

Ravager · #6 02-28-2013, 09:32 AM

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Pretty pathetic how you dumb ass atheists proclaim to be intelligent and yet the best argument you can supply consists of posting gif's or logic consisting of exactly what you accuse creationists as using. Just know that you're literally holding back the entire human race with your blatant stupidity.

Actually the gods of ancient mythology were real people that actually existed and still do. They are simply very advanced beings that were called gods because of their technology. They too however were created by God but this is a completely different discussion. I will say this tho, there is an ancient text by Apollo stating that the gods were ordered by Jesus to leave the planet, several hundred years before he was born. So how does Apollo...a supposedly fake person, know about or even have a conversation with someone who hasn't even been born yet? Unless of course Apollo was a real person and Jesus really is who he says he is.

Invoking God has nothing to do with a need to explain but rather that God is the only logical explanation. There's only two possibilities for how life began and only one of them is logical. Either everything created itself from nothing, for no reason and inanimate matter some how magically turned itself into complex constructs for again, no reason or purpose, just total random chance coincidences. Or an intelligent being designed and then created the universe for a reason and for a purpose and they took inanimate matter and formed it into complex things like stars, planets and eventually life.

So there you go. The only two possible ways the universe could exist, of which is not possible. Has zero to do with semantics.

Now you tipped your troll hand.

Hitchens · #7 02-28-2013, 12:50 PM

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Actually the gods of ancient mythology were real people that actually existed and still do. They are simply very advanced beings that were called gods because of their technology. They too however were created by God but this is a completely different discussion. I will say this tho, there is an ancient text by Apollo stating that the gods were ordered by Jesus to leave the planet, several hundred years before he was born. So how does Apollo...a supposedly fake person, know about or even have a conversation with someone who hasn't even been born yet? Unless of course Apollo was a real person and Jesus really is who he says he is.

Rhambuk · #8 02-28-2013, 12:55 PM

lol that remix is a riot

Ravager · #9 02-28-2013, 09:29 AM

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How is there no evidence? There is so much evidence that I seriously can't believe that people still don't believe in God in 2013. With the vast amount of scientific knowledge we possess you would think it should be obvious by the 2nd grade. DNA is literally the smoking gun for God, it seriously can't make his existence anymore obvious.

The first of every living thing had to have been created by a being that is not bound by the laws of the physical universe. According to the scientific law known as the law of biogenesis, all living things MUST come from another living thing of the same type. For example, cows will always produce more cows and cows will only ever come from other cows. Same goes for every single living thing from dogs to cats and the entire human race.

Think about it logically, all infants REQUIRE the care of their parents. Who then cared for the first infant? Also, where did it come from if it's parents don't exist? This is more evidence for God since according to the very laws of science, life shouldn't technically even be possible. I'm not invoking God simply because "I don't know how, therefor God did it". I'm invoking God because based on the evidence, the only way some things are possible is if they were done by a being capable of doing anything.

How about an analogy maybe? We all play EQ. It is a world that was created, in this case the creators name is Verant instead of God. Nothing in this world happened randomly or by chance, it is all the product of intelligent thought. Literally every single pixel and every single line of code that governs the actions within the game were consciously chosen and created. Also consider that a great deal of effort is made in an attempt to reflect the actual world.

It is also easy to see that these creators have power over the world that a normal player does not. Just like God is able to manipulate the physical laws of the universe, GM's are able to manipulate the laws of Norrath. They can rez without being a cleric and they can port to any location in the world with a simple command. Why then is it so hard to believe that God too would have powers over the physical universe and is not bound by it's laws? This is a perfect example of how things such as miracles are possible such as life beginning or Jesus walking on water etc.

So here you are, sitting in a virtual world that attempts to mimic the real world and we know for a fact that this world was 100% entirely the product of intelligent beings. Yet you can't grasp the idea that the real world too, was the product of an intelligent being?

So sure, Hitchins is right, what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, however I simply do not think this quote has any relevance since I am clearly providing evidence to support my claim.

And this is why your arguments can never be rational. You only ever consider one possibility so you can never be truly objective. You twist facts to suit the theory instead of the theory to suit the facts. If you were truly objective you'd say "Also, where did it come from if it's parents don't exist? This is more evidence for God since according to the very laws of science, life shouldn't technically even be possible.... OR". You are missing the "or". When you run into something that can't be explained, you don't simply explain it away with magic and call that logic. You gather evidence and adjust your theories.

Taresh · #10 02-28-2013, 04:24 AM

Magic is just science we dont understand~