CLARIFICATION FROM SIRKEN

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's pretty well known that compromising some "red" elements of a game and becoming more casual friendly greatly increases the likability of the game for them/ the retention of those players.

Let's be honest: most of us posting here will always play. Gotta make it appealing to the little guys. One bad experience and they could be gone. Let's not forget how many other games are out there the non no lifers could be playing. You gotta make it somewhat enjoyable for people.

Yup.

[Andis]

I need clarification from a GM on this.

Killing a naked. I killed naked Puddems last night, along with novus. We both got suspended for this action. He claimed to have shouted lns. Andis and Novus suspended for a week.

I load my other char, tell ooc that killing a naked is not permitted anymore. Sirken responds why is killing a naked not permitted?

there seems to be great confusion on this.

One minute, shouted lns means something, then on the other side, I am being told that they do not need to shout lns, it is implied.

Ambrotos messaged me before the ban and said, he shouted in zone.

need clarification on this pls.

[Sektor]

so glad I'm not on pvping lol. Staying off DAT gm radar.

[mcappy]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's pretty well known that compromising some "red" elements of a game and becoming more casual friendly greatly increases the likability of the game for them/ the retention of those players.

Let's be honest: most of us posting here will always play. Gotta make it appealing to the little guys. One bad experience and they could be gone. Let's not forget how many other games are out there the non no lifers could be playing. You gotta make it somewhat enjoyable for people.

I'm not disagreeing that some form of PNP is a good thing - I came from SZ, so I might be used to it, but based on the teams server feedback I understand that's not the atmosphere they want to promote here, and for good reason. I was never the type to corpse camp or pm racial slurs when I get killed, so it's not going to make my time here any worse. I'm more worried about not having a fraps to back myself up when someone else accuses me of something I didn't do. Not that I'm all that active in pvp - soloing in Bumfuck, Nowhere for 46 levels leaves you a bit light on the pvp.

I mainly have issues with the 'gray area' cases (see Andis' post above) being enforced so heavily, especially this soon after the new PNP was introduced. If you're going to maintain that there are undefinable cases, or too many to pre-define (see some of the hypotheticals being thrown around in this and other threads), they should be giving some leeway in those gray areas until people are used to the rules. Save the making of examples for cut-and-dry cases.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Sektor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so glad I'm not on

[HippoNipple]

Sounds like Nizzar is having a hard time understanding. Nizzar, just send an officer of Red Dawn a /t and they will guide you on proper procedures if you are confused in game. Red Dawn is here to promote server integrity and would love to steer you in the right direction, avoiding any unnecessary bans, and preserving box competition and health.

[Andis]

Originally Posted by Andis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I need clarification from a GM on this.

Killing a naked. I killed naked Puddems last night, along with novus. We both got suspended for this action. He claimed to have shouted lns. Andis and Novus suspended for a week.

I load my other char, tell ooc that killing a naked is not permitted anymore. Sirken responds why is killing a naked not permitted?

there seems to be great confusion on this.

One minute, shouted lns means something, then on the other side, I am being told that they do not need to shout lns, it is implied.

Ambrotos messaged me before the ban and said, he shouted in zone.

need clarification on this pls.

[Buhbuh]

I agree, they shouldn't be banning indiscriminately just to make the point that they're serious.

It's still a fresh rule set and will take a few days for people to get it and calm down. But keep in mind Sirken is from VZ, and from what I understand, the player base there had an understanding about shunning those who treated others like we all have been doing for the last two years.

[Rellapse36]

The trolls were not taking them srs now they are mission accomplished by the GM's

[Millburn]

Nobody is gonna get banned over honest mistakes, man the fuck up and use some common sense. Quit bitching over trivial shit.