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Old 02-05-2016, 04:30 PM
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no religion taught in schools =/= you can't voice your opinion. I very strongly support freedom of speech, but spouting "JESUS IS LERD" in the middle of an algebra class doesn't make a whole lot of sense, does it?


Your interpretation of constitutional rights seems to be the problem here. There is no teaching of religion in public (government run) schools, but at the same time the military isnt going to show up and blow your teeth out of the back of your skull for practicing the wrong religion. You're free to practice any religion or none at all without fear of sanctioned persecution, but that doesn't mean the entire country is your personal venue to rant about some highly buoyant israelite.

If you can convince me of some practical, valuable reason for teaching religion in schools, I'd reconsider my stance, but considering there isn't any, I think you're gonna have a hard time doing it.
Should I start? I have offered no opinion regarding this, but have repeatedly stated the rights of the citizenry to voice and practice their rights within the system/schools. Did your M8 teach you to B8?

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Old 02-05-2016, 04:35 PM
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As I've said a couple times, to control the children is the path to controlling their parents and society. Even Hitler used this tactic to gain power over a nation, and nearly a world by the result thereof. This is textbook liberal doctrine in practice to the purpose of divide and conquer. You are well indoctrinated, sir. Children have the right to equal protection under the law, under the bill of rights and under the constitution. You, sir, for some reason believe that these rights are stripped away from a good portion of our society; from the youth of America. You, sir, are mistaken.

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wrong in one's opinion or judgment.
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wait.. why do we all care about what theyre doing in schools nobody here is going to reproduce.
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Old 02-05-2016, 04:47 PM
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That is 100% reasonable and doesnt encroach on the state/church separation. What wolfie doesn't seem to grasp is that that separation only means religion cant be officially taught in schools. not that it isn't ok for someone to be religious.
Pagan & Daywolfe please take the time to read the letter from Danbury Baptists and Jefferson's response. It brings context that is thoroughly needed to this discussion.
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Old 02-05-2016, 04:52 PM
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Are you only christian when you're actively in church?
Hmm? Going to a church makes you a Christian you say? So if a person stands in and empty garage, are they a car?

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Old 02-05-2016, 05:09 PM
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Pagan & Daywolf please take the time to read the letter from Danbury Baptists and Jefferson's response. It brings context that is thoroughly needed to this discussion.
Already read it minutes after posting. good post btw. Yes I agree in respect to the "wall". This is in truth to many of the writings of the founders. Jefferson is a very interesting character, especially in relation to Franklin and their contending yet respectful relationship, even to friendship.
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Old 02-05-2016, 05:18 PM
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Old 02-05-2016, 05:22 PM
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get a room you two
What kind of "progressive" are you? First you're a pedophile-phobe, and now a homo-phobe.
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Old 02-05-2016, 05:51 PM
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Old 02-05-2016, 06:44 PM
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What I was hoping you'd say is "yes, you are still a christian when you aren't in church". Had you simply answered me, we could have gone down the path I was intending.

If you're still a christian outside of church, your religion isnt being surpressed by not being taught religion for a few hours during class.
You're still on that, eh? Sorry, Bro, but reading comprehension check. Or you comprehend what I'm saying, but it's not the direction you want this to go for shits and giggles. Vroom! Vroom! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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