Monk or Ranger for soloing melee?

[Widan]

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At 150 skill you have a 25% chance to succeed in making the bow
At 175 skill it's about 50%

For the guy who combined at 132 skill you had about a 7.5% chance.

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by Teflondon75 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm 16. 22 is max hit with the Trueshot with the standard super cheap 1 damage arrows bought at a merchant. My guess? Wild exaggeration or observer error in how many shots are being used to make kills lol. It takes like 15-20 arrows to kill a low green for me currently.

Are you using spells also? Dots + DD between shots along WITH arrows.

Soloing PURELY with bow is too slow.... that's why rogues and warriors don't really make the best bow damage classes (even though they get nice bows also, and have high skill caps).

You NEED your spells to fill in the rest and make it realistic for leveling.

You are 15+ already also, so you can even start quad kiting and using your AE spell along with archery to kill 4 mobs faster than others can. (you'd be hitting with 100 damage for 30 mana ....which is better damage to mana ratio than a shaman is killing with.... it may seem slow, like just little ticks of health....but after 30 minutes you will be killing a lot more than those next to you. Same with just single killing using dots + DD + bow).

[Plaxiglass]

Originally Posted by Teflondon75 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just finished my Trueshot bow. Hunted up another 300 plat turning in sashes and went to town. Ended up costing me 200 plat ish for the last 18 points, 500 plat total. I had another 12 attempts ready, took 4 to make the bow at 150 skill.

It seems to only do 22 damage an arrow though, not sure how somebody can kill a yellow with only 5-6 arrows doing 22 a pop max lol. Still a nice bow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was the guy who mentioned the 5-6 on bandits. Look maybe it was a slight exaggeration on my part, but reality is not far from there. Humanoid mobs flee at a certain hp.

Also, doing 22 dmg for a melee at that lvl is awesome, and you don’t get hit and barely need to med after fights. You easily solo mobs that are over your lvl such as werewolves for quests. The best thing is you have track to find the mobs you want to fight.

[Teflondon75]

Originally Posted by Plaxiglass [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was the guy who mentioned the 5-6 on bandits. Look maybe it was a slight exaggeration on my part, but reality is not far from there. Humanoid mobs flee at a certain hp.

Also, doing 22 dmg for a melee at that lvl is awesome, and you don’t get hit and barely need to med after fights. You easily solo mobs that are over your lvl such as werewolves for quests. The best thing is you have track to find the mobs you want to fight.

For sure, if you're hitting max/high DD's in between each shot it could be as low as 8-9. I think conservatively 10-12 on average would be better though with the wild misses and half/less damage hits I personally get on even low greens lol. When I saw you post 5-6 I though "Holy shite, it must be hitting for 40-50's" Is all good [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] 100% agreed track is awesome!

[Fireblade7]

I’m currently at 141. Every 40 combines starting at 135 costs 54pp but I sell back the arrows for 35-40pp. (122-135 was 46pp selling back for 30pp) How’d it cost you so much? I get 2-5 skill ups every 40 combines with a terrible dex and wis

Edit: waiting for 150 skill to go get 10 attempts in. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Teflondon75]

Originally Posted by Fireblade7 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m currently at 141. Every 40 combines starting at 135 costs 54pp but I sell back the arrows for 35-40pp. (122-135 was 46pp selling back for 30pp) How’d it cost you so much? I get 2-5 skill ups every 40 combines with a terrible dex and wis

Edit: waiting for 150 skill to go get 10 attempts in. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simple, bad RNG. I did my combines in sets of 80. The last ones I made from 132-150 cost me right around 125plat(what arrow could you make for less? CLASS 5 Bone Point Arrow is the cheapest at around 31pp/stack) per 80 combines and I averaged 70ish plat return. My first set of 80 got me 4 skill ups. Second set got me 2 lol...in 80 combines. Third set was 3 skill ups for 141 skill and luckily the last set of 80 combines got me to 150 skill in the last 3 or 4.

You either got way lucky or I got way unlucky lol. Or a bit of both @shrugs@

Edit, maybe you have super high charisma for costs. Doubt it, but maybe. I have 75

[Fireblade7]

Originally Posted by Teflondon75 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simple, bad RNG. I did my combines in sets of 80. The last ones I made from 132-150 cost me right around 125plat(what arrow could you make for less? CLASS 5 Bone Point Arrow is the cheapest at around 31pp/stack) per 80 combines and I averaged 70ish plat return. My first set of 80 got me 4 skill ups. Second set got me 2 lol...in 80 combines. Third set was 3 skill ups for 141 skill and luckily the last set of 80 combines got me to 150 skill in the last 3 or 4.

You either got way lucky or I got way unlucky lol. Or a bit of both @shrugs@

Edit, maybe you have super high charisma for costs. Doubt it, but maybe. I have 75

For the 135-162 skill up, I was combining the basic 5cp items (wooden, field point, large nock) with bone vane arrows. This came to 27pp a stack. Maybe I was lucky?

Also update, got to 153 fletching. Farmed for 10 tries at true shot. Got it on first combine. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My journey is over for now until I go for rain caller. Thank you all so much for the advice!

[Teflondon75]

Originally Posted by Fireblade7 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For the 135-162 skill up, I was combining the basic 5cp items (wooden, field point, large nock) with bone vane arrows. This came to 27pp a stack. Maybe I was lucky?

Also update, got to 153 fletching. Farmed for 10 tries at true shot. Got it on first combine. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My journey is over for now until I go for rain caller. Thank you all so much for the advice!

If you notice I was getting roughly half as many skill ups per 40 as you were and also less return through successful combines/reselling. With a 1 tap bow as cherry on top. You definitely got a bit lucky lol. Or I didn't heh. @shrugs@ Is no big deal. I only posted My findings because I would hate for some new person to come in and think well damn I'm gonna make this bow at level 8 with my 130 plat.

[Fireblade7]

Originally Posted by Teflondon75 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you notice I was getting roughly half as many skill ups per 40 as you were and also less return through successful combines/reselling. With a 1 tap bow as cherry on top. You definitely got a bit lucky lol. Or I didn't heh. @shrugs@ Is no big deal. I only posted My findings because I would hate for some new person to come in and think well damn I'm gonna make this bow at level 8 with my 130 plat.

I think total it was still something like 300-350pp. Yeah, I feel I got really lucky though on that combine though.

I think between both of us, 350-500pp though is a decent enough spread for 150+ fletching idea. That 141-153 still cost me a good portion of that though.

[Wallicker]

Hi there, I am a bard, I can run speed buff myself at lvl 5 and kite reds endlessly without any downtime much faster than any ranger. Bow kiting is not going to allow you to speed level faster than most other classes and definitely not a monk. You sir are delusional.