Velious Solo/Duo Challenge Official Thread (and Trio/Group)

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You've now made 4 posts in a thread that is about discussing the specifics of Velious MOBs/locations, and contributed 0 information to the thread.

People haven't forgotten the thread you recently trolled regarding solo challenges, or the fan fic you made where Sscalez is violently tortured. I'd certainly give you a second chance if you actually apologize and admit you were wrong for attacking Sscalez to the point where he didn't want to post here anymore.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=441516

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=442054

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's more productive now, so everything doesn't need to be changed in the future. I've already put too much time into putting all of this together and there's still more work to do with getting precise info about some more of the spawns and figuring out exactly how many MOBs should be killed per zone/tier. It's a challenge game anyway; what's interesting about starting all this up and continuing to use the cheat version of lull to do everything? People have already been doing that for 16 years on p99 and we know it's getting changed. Allowing it here would be no different than allowing an exploit.

The reality is most people disagree with you on lulls. If nobody follows your challenge, all of your work is wasted. That is less efficient.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's more productive now, so everything doesn't need to be changed in the future.

More productive for you. It's clearly not for anyone else.

When this started I thought you were trying to build community consensus, but it seems that (like another poster here) your real goal is just to impose your opinions on others.

It's too bad, as this community could really use consensus builders. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More productive for you. It's clearly not for anyone else.

When this started I thought you were trying to build community consensus, but it seems that (like another poster here) your real goal is just to impose your opinions on others.

It's too bad, as this community could really use consensus builders. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loramin finally realized that he has been backing a troll (Zuranthium) the entire time. Loramin abused his admin powers to help this troll (Zuranthium), instead of simply suspending Zuranthium for abusing the wiki. We tried to tell him for 100+ pages that Zuranthium was a troll, and the evidence was quite clear:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=441516

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=442054

It's funny because Loramin did kind of admit they were trolls:

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2) Trolls - these people disagree for illogical reasons. They can't be convinced to change their opinion, because they don't actually believe in it.

Now both Samo and Zura probably fell into category #2 at some point in this thread (I'm too lazy to go back and find examples, but I think I remember it).

But he also accidentally admits that he didn't really read the full thread, so he didn't even have a clear picture of what was happening when he decided to take their side and abuse his admin powers.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You used a known exploit to kill the dragons in both of these videos. Please stop posting them as any sort of evidence other than you being completely disingenuous in any discussion on these forums.

Samoht is simply grasping at straws, and has no evidence he has done these kills himself. We would all love to see some evidence to back up his trolling, but he has yet to produce any.

A word of warning. When doing Zuranthium/Samoht/Loramin's solo challenge from this thread (it isn't a community effort), expect more posts like this. Similar to the thread linked above, posters like Zuranthium and Samoht simply tear other people down, and discourage people from doing these challenges.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Samoht is simply grasping at straws, and has no evidence he has done these kills himself. We would all love to see some evidence to back up his trolling, but he has yet to produce any.

I noticed that you can't even address the accusation head on. You're waffling. You utilized the same known exploit in both videos -- the same videos you continuously post of "evidence" that you're able to kill an easy 6 neck dragon or a shitty 4 neck dragon. You haven't killed them legitimately. You cheated. You lack credibility. I didn't come here making any claim that I have killed them solo, so your argument that I haven't posted videos is another straw man. You're arguing against your own made up argument -- moving the goal posts. It's disingenuous, just like any other post you make. It's more evidence that you don't even have an argument to make. Your kills don't even count. You're so full of shit.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Expect more double posts like this from Samoht when people try to post their accomplishments in this thread or others.

Another disingenuous argument from DSM. He's intentionally editing previous posts instead of making new ones so that he can accuse people of double posting. Notice he still has not addressed the accusation at hand?

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Samoht probably wants the last word. We'll see if he posts again. Will it be single? Double? Triple?

Another edit to talk about me double posting, but still nothing to say about how he used a known exploit in his kill videos. Zero credibility.

Just in case he's too dumb to find it.

[Duik]

The correct answer is tomorrow.
Zeds answer is full of feelz and emoticons (that i cant render properly) so he'd say. Do it, do it now.

[Tewaz]

Calling me a troll is hilarious.

[zelld52]

fuckin stop guys, every forum post you guys enter turns into a back and forth until the original topic gets lost. take a break from forums ffs

[shovelquest]

The highest rank you should get is

[SSSSS+++++] Triod by Zuranium, DSM & Samhot

Coordinating that group would require the most advanced group/raid leadership and strategy possible.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The highest rank you should get is

[SSSSS+++++] Triod by Zuranium, DSM & Samhot

Coordinating that group would require the most advanced group/raid leadership and strategy possible.

I think using the Sscalez standard that you could consider that as a solo for me because I'd be doing all the heavy lifting and all they would be able to do is give me buffs.

[Danth]

Watering the WW dragons is pretty lame but the P99 admins allow it. Can't fairly call it an 'exploit' when it was reported directly to the head admins in 2015 and it's still present in 2025 without so much as a comment, let alone any changes. Maybe -1 to a watered score or some such.

I view our implementation of the lull line in much the same light: Nilbog agreed it was OP way back in 2009 and here we are 15+ years later with lull still OP. Charm, channeling, the list goes on. There's enough "potentially to-be fixed" stuff on P99 that I don't feel it's worth getting bogged down in it. Easier to simply play the game as it exists in front of us and if something changes later, then it changes. It's supposed to be a fun series of solo/duo/etc tasks, not really a competition and certainly not for any tangible reward beyond personal satisfaction.

I haven't done enough POM to be able to comment on it usefully. Just a few trips in 2017....didn't like it much.