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Old 09-25-2014, 07:38 PM
Serith Serith is offline
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I'm going to post about this one time, to set the record as straight as possible. Yes, I triggered a charm on someone else's engage. It was unbelievably stupid, and caused by ignorance of how taunt resists work. No, it was not malicious or intentional.

I wanted to add myself to the encounter log so that if Hoku died or was charmed (as has happened multiple times on VP pulls) I could stand from FD, and secure our FTE. Often when a puller dies, FTE changes several times, as pullers standing under the dragon are unexpectedly stunned, killed and charmed. My plan was to taunt PD to get on the agro list and then immediately FD and stay down until I saw a new FTE on one of our own pullers. I would then stand to be added to the encounter log. And I'd be far, far away from the dragon, totally safe with our own FTE. I did not think I could pull agro on PD with a taunt resist, since PD is at least level 70, and taunt cannot work on red con mobs. I assumed I would be on the agro list, but at the very bottom, since I'd have done no damage or affected the mob in any way. And thus PD would not turn to me, or set off a charm. I was wrong. To suggest that I tried to set off a charm on purpose is absurd and insulting. However, I understand why people would think this. I can't make you believe me, so I won't try to convince you anymore than this. If i was trying to set off a charm why would I use taunt and not just a spell, melee attack, root net, or mallet charge. Why would I do it so clearly in front of other people? Because I didn't think it was possible to pull agro on PD with a taunt.

None of what I said here matters when it comes to petitions and that's the only reason I'm even posting about it at all. It doesn't matter whether it was done on purpose or not. And it probably doesn't matter if if affected the fight in any way. Which it did not. I think everyone that knows me, even some people in IB who apparently consider me some kind of enemy, know that I'm a reasonable person and this kind of violation is not in my character. I'd always rather lose mobs than risk something like this. I'm sorry for what happened and I'm glad it didn't cost you a kill. It's not something that's ever happened before, and not something which will ever happen again.
So what you're saying is even TMO's raid leaders don't know basic mechanics? Maybe you should have asked in O-chat how agro works. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-25-2014, 07:42 PM
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So what you're saying is even TMO's raid leaders don't know basic mechanics? Maybe you should have asked in O-chat how agro works. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
That's hardly "basic."
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Old 09-25-2014, 07:51 PM
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That's hardly "basic."
But buddy you knew all about how this worked and what it did. And we did it on PD twice and Silverwing once this past weekend.

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Can confirm this has been happening for months and has not been fixed despite it being investigated. Most recently it happened at both PD and Talendor this weekend. In the past, we've had multiple pet pullers who were standing at the zone in, get charmed by a VP dragon from their spawn point when another puller attempted to FTE. Here's the old thread. It seems like hate/fear trash was addressed, but dragons were not.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...ighlight=charm

And I agree it would be awesome of Draco and CT shouts were zonewide. I don't know if there's actually a difference, but draco's in particular seems incredibly small. It's hard to tell when another guild has pulled unless you're watching him.
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:13 AM
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log on quicker.
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:14 AM
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or is it log on faster?
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:30 AM
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Phats unhappy better do what it says
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:35 AM
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Lol even if you log in faster, chances are you'll sit at ENT anyways. Love the anon IB troll tho, your level of dedication + persistence in TMO bashing

Phats can you talk about Bubus' raid interference on same mob?
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:31 AM
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Hitpoint, you claim Phats is making stuff up, so let's get an official word from you.

Confirm or deny your raid interference?

What about this blatant train he speaks of from this morning? More false information?

I seek the truth.
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:48 AM
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Hitpoint, you claim Phats is making stuff up, so let's get an official word from you.

Confirm or deny your raid interference?

What about this blatant train he speaks of from this morning? More false information?

I seek the truth.
This guy taking the moral high ground on intentional training? lol
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Old 09-25-2014, 03:36 PM
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To top things off as we broke our VP agreement with IB on how we pull dragons. We were facing the distinct possibility of getting shut out by IB in VP after losing five dragons. We had previously agreed to not use any bards and in the past had even shouted at IB bards anytime they strayed past the zone line for the past 2-3 months. Since we were down on our luck we decided to employ bards on the last dragon respawn in VP. Bards have never been used by either guild to pull in VP because we both agreed to not use the class.
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Except none of this crap you posted is even remotely true. Bards were never not allowed to run up. The rule was no run speed greater than SoW. Listen a few of us are taking breaks from the game or not playing as much as we were. Enjoy the success that that has brought for you guys but remember...when we come back full time it ends for you guys.
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Completely false. Bards have been used before, I in fact use my bard from time to time. Unfortunantely, I do not smoke crack to stay attentive for the 36 hour repop window, not to mention I have been gone on most of the weekends the last few months, so perhaps i haven't been noticed when I do. I know imslap has run up a few times.

Besides, the agreement that was written down and posted to us on day one of the self-imposed rule change was no run speed modification greater than sow (although IB has been known to use gm speed "bugs"). I remember clearly, because I fought hard against it.

Peace,

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How the fuck can you say a bard with sow can't race up... IB gettin Seriously ignant.

Hoku why so petty?
So my buddy in IB (former tmo member, who wants me to apply) just PM'd me the following. He said this was posted by Hokushin very recently in their members section. I probable wont get much more information out of my buddy now, but I felt the truth must get out there.

Props to Unbrella for doing the right thing. Hopefully he follows suit with accepting responsibility for our train at Trak this morning and our pullers interference in VP. (Hitpoint, Groom & Nagach (visceral) exploiting game mechanics)

Perhaps I will stay with the majority of my friends as we transition to the new guild structure and name.



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Nexona - we willingly concede the next Nexona without question.

I told you if you could get me a screenshot or recording of me saying that no bards were allowed at all, I would forfeit Nexona and I have every intention of keeping my word as you have supplied me with the information I requested.

I am not sure why we decided on absolutely no bards regardless of Selo's. I suspect it was because of a policing issue, but because of the amount of Fraps running at all times, I don't think that will be a problem.
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