Spells: Dragon Roar

[Daldaen]

I don't disagree, rogues > shamans/enchanters/Druids on raids.

That aside - This thread is in the bug forum and therefore about classic.

The evidence supports that the dragons use a no-resist check fear, which was a result should lead to more partial duration fears. Which is more classic than what we have currently where 255 MR players are being feared for 20 seconds.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by isiah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

6 -8 rogues is not an alt force, which is what we had for Zland and Kland low number kills. In fact, they were all mains.

I mean we have seen Rampage with literally 15 rogues for a Sont kill. Lots of them were alts. Nothing wrong with that, Rampage has people with the mindset and time to have alts to field the perfect raid force for untuned encounters.

But most of the other guilds don't. It doesn't matter though, the fearing dragons are overtuned compared to classic Velious and that's why they should be fixed, no other reason.

[isiah]

I may be wrong, but didn't devs state that they were gonna beef up encounters a bit from classic since Kunark was out so long?

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by isiah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I may be wrong, but didn't devs state that they were gonna beef up encounters a bit from classic since Kunark was out so long?

No. Classic encounters has always been the goal when it can be accomplished. There's minor stuff they can't implement due to the Titanium client like removing item linking, or Xenovorash spawning on the edge of the lake instead of the platform in the lake (it's buggy) but raid encounters were always supposed to be as classic as possible.

[Seltius]

They did say they were tweaking some encounters due to that Isiah. I believe there were a couple ToV encounters specifically mentioned.

If you have proof that the encounters are tuned incorrectly then post it but comments on Rampage or other guilds raid makeup or how they do encounters is not productive here. Please stick to posting facts in the bug forums.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Seltius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They did say they were tweaking some encounters due to that Isiah. I believe there were a couple ToV encounters specifically mentioned.

If you have proof that the encounters are tuned incorrectly then post it but comments on Rampage or other guilds raid makeup or how they do encounters is not productive here. Please stick to posting facts in the bug forums.

Did you actually read the thread? Daldaen has some pretty convincing data.

Additionally it is highly relevant that the bleeding edge content raid guild is jumping through some pretty big hoops to mitigate the dragon fear. That needs to be indentified. Like I've said before a p99 raider is much more well prepared than a live player was going into Velious due to Kunark last 5 times longer than it should. Even mid range raid guilds should be at least be clubbing Klan and Zlan with relative ease and Sont should only be moderately more difficult due to the dispel.

[isiah]

Originally Posted by Seltius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They did say they were tweaking some encounters due to that Isiah. I believe there were a couple ToV encounters specifically mentioned.

If you have proof that the encounters are tuned incorrectly then post it but comments on Rampage or other guilds raid makeup or how they do encounters is not productive here. Please stick to posting facts in the bug forums.

Yeah, I'm not gonna dig around for the thread or info, but I'm almost positive they turned up certain encounters in ToV, vyemm for example, due to kunark being out so long etc.


But yeah, Fear is still funky on the dragons in some way as others have said, which isn't anything to do with the tweaking of the merb, but just the Dragon Roar mechanic itself.

[Seltius]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you actually read the thread? Daldaen has some pretty convincing data.

Additionally it is highly relevant that the bleeding edge content raid guild is jumping through some pretty big hoops to mitigate the dragon fear. That needs to be indentified. Like I've said before a p99 raider is much more well prepared than a live player was going into Velious due to Kunark last 5 times longer than it should. Even mid range raid guilds should be at least be clubbing Klan and Zlan with relative ease and Sont should only be moderately more difficult due to the dispel.

I read it I cannot open the videos here. I directed my above post at those who turned to attacking a guild or other players on a bug thread. Post data like Daldaen did otherwise it isn't constructive.

If you are unhappy that everyone on the server isn't able to kill all content then maybe take that to RNF or if constructive server chat. I for one appreciate the fact they aren't allowing the 4yrs of Kunark to trivialize the content of Velious.

That said I do agree that the dragon fear lands too often and lasts too long when it does. Then again it has been 15 years so I cant remember how often I resisted some dragons on live. But part of that could also be the way the server syncs up.

[slappytwotoes]

Man this seems like a simple fix with lots of great evidence.

Was an issue since beta, why hasn't this been resolved yet? #tinfoilhat

[Daldaen]

Bump. Can any dev confirm the incorrect ID Dragon Roar is being used by P99 Velious Dragons with the -150 check causing it to be more difficult to resist and more likely to last its full duration?