Rotation RNF Thread

[bktroost]

Not every guild adheres to a social contract theory. I really liked that about Rampage. They did the high end content like pros and their leadership had one voice.

I don't think Rustle knew that Awakened was a true democratic guild. I can understand how 10 hours would not be enough time to run a voting session and get a majority decision.

[arsenalpow]

Chill out and go kill some snake people imo

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[khanable]

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Chill out and go kill some snake people imo

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1) what are you wearing
2) is that guys name rustle?
3) is tofu 2 boxing? hacker

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) what are you wearing
2) is that guys name rustle?
3) is tofu 2 boxing? hacker

1) This

2) ya, he's that's Turgid's monk box

3) yes, totally normal, 2 machines yo

[AzzarTheGod]

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1) This

o lawdd allakhazams is still staffed.

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Thanks, marked this as a quest item and put it on the note.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Breaken

Why does a server reset demand a response immediately?

Originally Posted by Erati

thanks for the courtesy of 10 hours to amend the agreement that had been functioning for several months

Rustle can compete far more effectively in VP when you guys are distracted with TOV and Kael and such. If we hadn't broken the rotation, the smart play would have been for you to simply do VP on Saturday evening (blah blah we were tired from the repop blah blah) at which point the timers would diverge and it would be difficult for us to compete with your poopsocking crew. So it was either now or at the next server reset, which could be months away. TLDR: it wasn't an artificial deadline.

Here is what I don't understand. You guys had the opportunity to make a huge power play here. Getsome even dropped a hint for you when he talked about being willing to make concessions in other areas. The obvious play in your situation was "OK Rustle, if you want to be treated as a full fledged power on the server that's all well and good. But you can't have it both ways: if you want your own VP slot then you have to stop allying with Aftermath on the tougher targets. We'll even throw in a Sleeper's Tomb Golem rotation to sweeten the deal."

This is easily a huge win for Awakened. You'll go from 50% to 90% on AOW/Tunare/Vyemm/Yelinak in exchange for going from 33% to 25% of VP. Did this counter proposal never occur to you? Honestly even at this stage, if I were in your shoes this would still be my play. Plus I'd demand the next VP slot to restore my honor and placate my plebians, then restarting with order Aftermath/Awakened/CSG/Rustle.

[Jaxon]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is what I don't understand. You guys had the opportunity to make a huge power play here. Getsome even dropped a hint for you when he talked about being willing to make concessions in other areas. The obvious play in your situation was "OK Rustle, if you want to be treated as a full fledged power on the server that's all well and good. But you can't have it both ways: if you want your own VP slot then you have to stop allying with Aftermath on the tougher targets. We'll even throw in a Sleeper's Tomb Golem rotation to sweeten the deal."

This is easily a huge win for Awakened. You'll go from 50% to 90% on AOW/Tunare/Vyemm/Yelinak in exchange for going from 33% to 25% of VP. Did this counter proposal never occur to you? Honestly even at this stage, if I were in your shoes this would still be my play. Plus I'd demand the next VP slot to restore my honor and placate my plebians, then restarting with order Aftermath/Awakened/CSG/Rustle.

This deal makes no sense for Rustle. Why would they give up their picks on AOW/Tunare/Vyemm/Yelinak/CT, going from maybe 15% to somewhere around 0% in exchange for going from 17% to 25% VP? It would be a pretty sweet deal for Awakened that Rustle would never accept.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Jaxon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This deal makes no sense for Rustle. Why would they give up their picks on AOW/Tunare/Vyemm/Yelinak/CT, going from maybe 15% to somewhere around 0% in exchange for going from 17% to 25% VP? It would be a pretty sweet deal for Awakened that Rustle would never accept.

I am reminded of this famous quote from Winston Churchill:

Churchill: "Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?"
Socialite: "My goodness, Mr. Churchill... Well, I suppose... we would have to discuss terms, of course... "
Churchill: "Would you sleep with me for five pounds?"
Socialite: "Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!"
Churchill: "Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price”

I don't think Rustle would take that deal either. But, no smart negotiator ever opens with their best offer. Plus, when you make that counterproposal you've taken control of the negotiations and set the direction (if you want a full VP slot, you have to make a concession somewhere) and say 'well, what's your counteroffer?' and go from there.

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Jaxon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This deal makes no sense for Rustle. Why would they give up their picks on AOW/Tunare/Vyemm/Yelinak/CT, going from maybe 15% to somewhere around 0% in exchange for going from 17% to 25% VP? It would be a pretty sweet deal for Awakened that Rustle would never accept.

The point is they basically already have! and most certainly would. As would CSG on the AoW/statue 24 hour agreement.

All we are missing here are some diplomatic leaders with the brass enough to make calls for their guilds to sit down at a table and everyone walks away happy.

Now stop leaving the skype channel and start talking.

[Legday]

I wasn't sure Raev's predictions were accurate or well informed, until I read this...

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Meanwhile Legday Goebbels increases his volume of propaganda.

...and then I knew, you're a goddamn genius savant.