new rules terrible

[loserofgame]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you say you'd rather enjoy losing, but what i've seen with Nilly/holo seems to be the exact same as tmo/ib these past few months.


You will either keep giving ground and losing it or you'll fight back.

You are correct, those situations are analogous.

I am not affiliated with either Holocaust or Nihilum at this time.

I am more concerned with how the rules will affect the server in general. Also, because Holocaust and Nihilum are a significant portion of the server population, it behooves me to be interested in their rivalry.

Also, I am really enjoying this server. I hope you are with yours as well.

[Silentone]

Here is a thought to all you hardcore red guys. why not make raid zones like VP on blue. No fuckin rules have at it until you turn BLUE and then you will come to your own rules which can be governed by guild officers. seems the pvp server has more rules then the blue server, geezus.

[aerokella]

I think if these rules had been in place since day 1 holocaust wouldnt have scared away all the newbies with their grief tactics.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by loserofgame [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, I am really enjoying this server. I hope you are with yours as well.

gotta love/hate relationship going on atm. It's all good tho.

I think with red, you guys do have more tools to stop trains and so forth without needing GM involvement tbh.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Silentone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is a thought to all you hardcore red guys. why not make raid zones like VP on blue. No fuckin rules have at it until you turn BLUE and then you will come to your own rules which can be governed by guild officers. seems the pvp server has more rules then the blue server, geezus.

Many of us have requested this, but you see there are two counter philosophies, that of Holocaust and that of Nihilum. Holocaust came to this server to PVP. They wanted to engage people, grief them, kill people, screenshot it, ForumQuest, win, etc. Nihilum came here to get the loots and kills they can't get on Blue in PVE because of the poopsocking. They don't really care about PVP and only engage in it when they need to in order to obtain PVE loots. Holocaust agrees with your statement and thinks these rules are too subjective and ultimately impossible to enforce fairly. Nihilum sees that chaos as a threat to their ability to farm the loots they came here for, they didn't come here to PVP and engage in multiple hour long zone struggles, they came to get those kills, so they want rules which will allow and enable them to do so. The GM's seem to take the Nihilum approach for their rules.

[loserofgame]

Originally Posted by Silentone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is a thought to all you hardcore red guys. why not make raid zones like VP on blue. No fuckin rules have at it until you turn BLUE and then you will come to your own rules which can be governed by guild officers. seems the pvp server has more rules then the blue server, geezus.

+1. I like rules, but a server like this should have less rules, not more.

It certainly makes things lawless, and difficult(by and large it is anyway, regardless of the rules).

You should not have signed up to play on r99 if you thought you would have an easy time.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've heard this before!

Shortly after you were nailed for exploiting Nagafen, exploiting Vox, Supreme + others being proven to have been banned for MQ and also for trying to DDoS the server and get it shut down otherwise.

I set out and said "here's what you guys did", was accused of being a liar and then..... well, here I stand bro.

Please tell me where I've ever falsely accused a member of your guild of anything. I will humbly apologize.

You are falsely accusing me of trying to DDoS the server and get it shut down.

Do you realize how many people that play Blue99/Red99 are part of the online gaming community i manage? Over 200 players just in Everquest. Why would I (waste time and resources setting up a bot network) DDoS a game that a large part of my community plays? You also realize that EQEmulator/Blue99/Red99 is NIGH invunerable to DDoS attacks anymore?

You chose to believe the lies and half truths and then because you did not know the facts continue to try and present them as such.


I await your humble apology.

[Jontaidoe]

null great post. the rest of you should quit forumsquest and try playing this sweet game called Everquest. It's pretty fun!

[loserofgame]

Originally Posted by Jontaidoe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

null great post. the rest of you should quick forumsquest and try playing this sweet game called Everquest. It's pretty fun!

This sounds good. ForumQuest was fun for an hour, though. Maybe I'll try it again sometime.

Cheers.

[Jontaidoe]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's the real issue that it all comes down to. There's not enough people to enforce these rules, and the enforcement that exists has been incredibly uneven. Nihilum intentionally exploited dragons, logs show it, fraps show it, even a screenshot of Hughman admitting about the ongoing exploitation of nagafen, but yet holocaust was suspended and disbanded but Nihilum went unpunished.

At the time of the holocaust suspension, the numbers in each guild were farily equal, and holocaust had been pushing nihilums shit in. The suspension allowed nihilum to farm loot uncontested for multiple weeks, use said loot to progress further, recruit more people since they were the only show in town, demoralized those suspended leading them to ultimately quit. So I ask, where is the equal treatment of nihilum with a suspension as well? Where is their guild disband? Oh, that's right.

Case in point, last week, beovvulf zones in, is frapped using eye of zomm to set off DT cycle (at that time it was established that doing so was now a suspendable offense), forced us to all camp, which then brought the nihilum zerg forces in for PVP. Crazycloud trained them back, and was suspended, beovvulf was a-ok. This tactic allowed them to sit in fear and farm the entire day. Even GMing.

The other day, Skelly zones in, pulls entire temple on us, forces us to zone/camp, etc., then the zerg forces enter. We return the favor on them Xantille suspended. Skelly? A-ok. Nihilum now allowed to sit in fear and farm.

I've witnessed countless LDC trains to Naggy/FG's etc., not even going to bother going on about how ridiculous it is that Nihilum got EXP rezzes that one time and we never have in the face of Emumu train after Emumu train in Sol B. Complete joke.

I've sent so many petitions, reports, fraps, to staff with people admitting brazenly and proudly that they have trained me or holocaust but zero action, certainly not a Nihilum style CSR Rez.

I want to stress something, I wouldn't care if training was legal, I would simply adapt, adjust, etc., however, apparently it isn't if you have a holocaust tag but it's a-ok if you're nihilum, that doesn't sit right with me. The uneven ruling on this server is a travesty.

I could give fifteen more examples right now but there's no point anymore, I find myself finally agreeing with emperor cast, it's too late to wipe this shit clean, just burn it down.

Guess what retard, we're giving the loots back. So fuck off and stop complaining about it. We have killed vox AND naggy legit now so stop your fucking crying and getbetter loser.