So what's there to do in Velious anyway?

[Halius]

Originally Posted by Gadwen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Despite all the nostalgia centered around EC, i think the bazaar benefited everyone.

From people actually being willing to sell their low end items instead of vendoring, to sellers being forced to compete with a more realistic inventory of what was on the server...not just against the people who are online and actively selling.

Yeah, you didn't get to have those awesome immersive haggling convos with people all day...so sad.

I will say that it was nice to actually be able to find what you were looking for most of the time, and be able to compare pricing if more than one person was selling that item. But I remember quite a few times when I saved up for an item and I thought I had enough money for it and when I found it in the bazaar it was 100+pp more then I thought it would be. At that point, I wished I was in EC because I could send a tell to that person to see if they would drop the price or offer to give them the money and another item in trade. You would rarely get a reply from a bazaar trader if you wanted to offer a trade for an item. That part sucked, but I guess it is just a small detail.

[TarukShmaruk]

Originally Posted by Gadwen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Despite all the nostalgia centered around EC, i think the bazaar benefited everyone.

From people actually being willing to sell their low end items instead of vendoring, to sellers being forced to compete with a more realistic inventory of what was on the server...not just against the people who are online and actively selling.

Yeah, you didn't get to have those awesome immersive haggling convos with people all day...so sad.

Absolutely.

The Bazaar allowed you to go AFK for the night while selling those runes/words/pages/sarnak blood/etc. that only a handful of people on the server wanted at that time but for them it was highly valued.

Fortunately I haven't run into the PITA haggling that I remember from live. Generally I'll cut the price from the 30 day average, someone will try to negotiate me further, I'll refuse because I already cut it, and I'll make the sale.

Or someone is selling, I'll buy at the lowest point of the average, and we'll meet somewhere in between. Maybe it's because we're all adults now but I haven't run into too much douchery.

[Swish]

You don't really need the bazaar here as long as you're equipped with a bit of savvy and determination to track an item down.

ahungry.com/eqauctions - search it, find the seller, get the item.

[Dirtnap]

Originally Posted by Halius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will say that it was nice to actually be able to find what you were looking for most of the time, and be able to compare pricing if more than one person was selling that item. But I remember quite a few times when I saved up for an item and I thought I had enough money for it and when I found it in the bazaar it was 100+pp more then I thought it would be. At that point, I wished I was in EC because I could send a tell to that person to see if they would drop the price or offer to give them the money and another item in trade. You would rarely get a reply from a bazaar trader if you wanted to offer a trade for an item. That part sucked, but I guess it is just a small detail.

I like when people talk about haggling being one of the biggest draws to Classic EQ. I can never seem to get anyone to haggle with me at all.

"How much for [insert item here]?"
"500pp"
Lowball as a starting offer expecting to haggle "How about 350?"
And never get a tell back. =(

And then the other way around.

"WTS [insert item here]"
"How much for [item]?"
Start with a highball amount expecting to haggle "700pp?"
And never get a tell back. =(

1/5ish people will actually haggle. Everyone else looks up the highest selling price of the item on the wiki and sells it STRICTLY at that price.

[myriverse]

Apart from being on the moon, Luclin really wasn't all that scifi. It was just as fantasy as Norrath, just with a different paint job. And I seriously question the sight of those who didn't like Luclin's paint job. But to each their own.

Only three zones of Velious that I liked: Velk's, Tower of Frozen Shadow, and Great Divide for the Ring War (and Thurgadin for the beer). The giants and dragons can bite me. I really never cared. It was tedious, surrounded by too much white. I remember being tremendously grateful for Luclin and something else to do.

[TarukShmaruk]

Originally Posted by myriverse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Apart from being on the moon, Luclin really wasn't all that scifi. It was just as fantasy as Norrath, just with a different paint job. And I seriously question the sight of those who didn't like Luclin's paint job. But to each their own.

Only three zones of Velious that I liked: Velk's, Tower of Frozen Shadow, and Great Divide for the Ring War (and Thurgadin for the beer). The giants and dragons can bite me. I really never cared. It was tedious, surrounded by too much white. I remember being tremendously grateful for Luclin and something else to do.

Really? You question the sight of people that didn't like these absurdities?

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[t0lkien]

Luclin was game breaking and ugly - visually and thematically. It had some good parts, but overall it was a negative. I loved SSrae as well. The path to VT was soul destroyingly tough, but simultaneously created some of the best online gaming moments of my life (not VT itself). Some of the items were also awesome - the Bard singing bonus gem which could be soloed if you were really smart about it; the insta-click invisibility cloak, and so many others. AA's were a good idea badly implemented and not thought through or understood, and completely messed up what went before them in class development. The Bazaar was a useful abomination that ritually slaughtered the quaint ingame economy and trade game, and preempted the AH and the RMAH. If you like all that, nice, you now have 100+ MMOs that are reskinned versions of the same game to play. Go to town.

Classic EQ, however, is a breath of fresh air compared to the mess Luclin+ created and which WoW logically engorged with mass market mediocrity, and which the entire industry aped mindlessly, rushing with drool flying from their mouths at the thought of the delicious gravy train that would follow....

And so now here we are playing a 14 year old game on a private server because everything else is fucking awful. GG Luclin.

[Halius]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin was game breaking and ugly - visually and thematically. It had some good parts, but overall it was a negative. I loved SSrae as well. The path to VT was soul destroyingly tough, but simultaneously created some of the best online gaming moments of my life (not VT itself). Some of the items were also awesome - the Bard singing bonus gem which could be soloed if you were really smart about it; the insta-click invisibility cloak, and so many others. AA's were a good idea badly implemented and not thought through or understood, and completely messed up what went before them in class development. The Bazaar was a useful abomination that ritually slaughtered the quaint ingame economy and trade game, and preempted the AH and the RMAH... If you like all that, nice, you now have 100+ MMOs that are reskinned versions of the same game to play. Go to town.

Classic EQ, however, is a breath of fresh air compared to the mess Luclin+ created and which WoW logically engorged with mass market mediocrity, and which the entire industry aped mindlessly, rushing with drool flying from their mouths at the thought of the delicious gravy train that would follow....

And so now here we are playing a 14 year old game on a private server because everything else is fucking awful. GG Luclin.

^^ *Massive Audience Applause* Bravo sir, bravo.

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

The server will stop at Velious, at which point many options will be considered, including possible custom content that will maintain the spirit of the game, and/or an additional new server starting over at Pre-Kunark.

Example: after velious is out for a while, Open up like Veksar in lake of ill omen an customize it or something like ( i think its built for level 70s anyway so would be a nice challenge for 60s) or could revamp it, that would be cool. Still waiting for part 1 though, VELIOUS~

[Phats]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin was game breaking and ugly - visually and thematically. It had some good parts, but overall it was a negative. I loved SSrae as well. The path to VT was soul destroyingly tough, but simultaneously created some of the best online gaming moments of my life (not VT itself). Some of the items were also awesome - the Bard singing bonus gem which could be soloed if you were really smart about it; the insta-click invisibility cloak, and so many others. AA's were a good idea badly implemented and not thought through or understood, and completely messed up what went before them in class development. The Bazaar was a useful abomination that ritually slaughtered the quaint ingame economy and trade game, and preempted the AH and the RMAH. If you like all that, nice, you now have 100+ MMOs that are reskinned versions of the same game to play. Go to town.

Classic EQ, however, is a breath of fresh air compared to the mess Luclin+ created and which WoW logically engorged with mass market mediocrity, and which the entire industry aped mindlessly, rushing with drool flying from their mouths at the thought of the delicious gravy train that would follow....

And so now here we are playing a 14 year old game on a private server because everything else is fucking awful. GG Luclin.

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