Players will always compete for raid mobs; the point of contention is the rules

[kylok]

Best anti variance argument I've read. Based on the couple server repops I've seen in the last few weeks I have to agree that variance makes the game less fun for everyone.

[sanforce]

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[xmonkx]

I for one, enjoy training in VP. Secondly, everyone complains about how its not fair or balanced, how do you figure? Get a monk or FD class, call your friends and meet me in vp? People act like the GM's give TMO members some special powers in VP that gives us an edge. Stop being pussies and get in there and fight for what you want. Not this oooo I beat you to the front of the line with faster mobilization or OO we got FTE snipe. And i'll state this again. Everyone's definition of "Having Fun" on this server is far different from the man or woman to the left or right of him.

tl/dr: Meet me in vp - quit bitchin

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by xmonkx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I for one, enjoy training in VP. Secondly, everyone complains about how its not fair or balanced, how do you figure? Get a monk or FD class, call your friends and meet me in vp? People act like the GM's give TMO members some special powers in VP that gives us an edge. Stop being pussies and get in there and fight for what you want. Not this oooo I beat you to the front of the line with faster mobilization or OO we got FTE snipe. And i'll state this again. Everyone's definition of "Having Fun" on this server is far different from the man or woman to the left or right of him.

tl/dr: Meet me in vp - quit bitchin

This isn't a PVP server if we wanted to kill other people we would be on red. I am sure you would fit in there if you want to fight people.

[xmonkx]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't a PVP server if we wanted to kill other people we would be on red. I am sure you would fit in there if you want to fight people.

Yah, this isn't red now is it. But rules state VP is fair game. Put your big boy pants on and do it like the rest of us. Funny how FE doesnt show up for CT anymore because they put in FTE shouts. Virtually the only way they could get mobs. And then variances so the 7 day poopsocks at VS are getting tiredsome. So lets bitch up a storm and try to change things so it benefits us.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by xmonkx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yah, this isn't red now is it. But rules state VP is fair game. Put your big boy pants on and do it like the rest of us. Funny how FE doesnt show up for CT anymore because they put in FTE shouts. Virtually the only way they could get mobs. And then variances so the 7 day poopsocks at VS are getting tiredsome. So lets bitch up a storm and try to change things so it benefits us.

Yeah, that is not why anyone is bitching. Hate to break it to ya it isn't about the benefit of one person. People who don't even attempt to raid because of some of the problems with it right now are complaining too. I know you may be selfish and see things that way but to some of us the community matters.

[xmonkx]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, that is not why anyone is bitching. Hate to break it to ya it isn't about the benefit of one person. People who don't even attempt to raid because of some of the problems with it right now are complaining too. I know you may be selfish and see things that way but to some of us the community matters.

So, you're white knighting for the rest of the server? Classic. And funny how you assume i'm sellfish when you don't even know me. Only people I see bitching in these threads are mostly FE and a few randoms. Please, go watch some more videos on raiding.

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by xmonkx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yah, this isn't red now is it. But rules state VP is fair game. Put your big boy pants on and do it like the rest of us. Funny how FE doesnt show up for CT anymore because they put in FTE shouts. Virtually the only way they could get mobs. And then variances so the 7 day poopsocks at VS are getting tiredsome. So lets bitch up a storm and try to change things so it benefits us.

Didnt FE just get innothule?

[kylok]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didnt FE just get innothule?

I lol'd

[falkun]

Originally Posted by xmonkx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yah, this isn't red now is it. But rules state VP is fair game. Put your big boy pants on and do it like the rest of us. Funny how FE doesnt show up for CT anymore because they put in FTE shouts. Virtually the only way they could get mobs. And then variances so the 7 day poopsocks at VS are getting tiredsome. So lets bitch up a storm and try to change things so it benefits us.

TMO doesn't have to bitch because the rules by default benefit them. Also, TMO bitched hardcore when the rules did not benefit them, references: hoop nerf, soulfire nerf request, TR pulling Sev off TMO kiting, TMO complaining about FE kiting Fay, Divinity realizing lockets might be dropping again in Droga, TD firepot binding shortly after TMO lost the Locket camp at Kunark launch, to name a few. Don't act like TMO does not bitch to change things to benefit them, it shows your ignorance.