<Fresh> disbanded due to massive division in the guild caused by the alliance.

[Nirgon]

Literally only went after Fresh due to Max boasting about vanquishing Holo and his intentions to destroy us in the end.

Gardur spitting in our face when offered an extremely generous second chance didn't help either, trust me.

Ain't no spin, go look at the Reddit post and the offer at the 90v134 at KC.

If you want Lite to take over your guild (merge) and fuck you over... be my guest.

I'd pick some of the ex-Nilly guys/Gardur to run it and toss his ass out if you know what's good for you.

Unless you truly believe that I think giving Lite control would some how doom us. Dude's got no clue about Velious, period.

[Gardur]

Gardur spitting in our face when offered an extremely generous second chance didn't help either, trust me.

I didn't spit in anyone's face. Gong and I have always chatted cordially. The troops gave it the thumbs down and that was it.

[heartbrand]

this got no chance

[bloodletter]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean like using the same voice chat server while doing alliance stuff? Not being a baby and being able to say "PVP happened" when its time to do Alliance business?

My guild in Darkfall, we had to review before each battle, which particular guild was KOS (youd pay merc guilds to fight for you that youd fight the next time because other side offered more money). So if youre not able to contain your burgers when you see someone alongside you that an hour ago was ganking your ass then its all to your guild's detriment.

No one in his right mind knowing the facts would put themselves at the mercy of Lite's loot council. Alliance is one thing, merging another.

If Lite is offering merger or no alliance, you can already tell this is going down the toilet

I think you're just proving my point?

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Gardur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't spit in anyone's face. Gong and I have always chatted cordially. The troops gave it the thumbs down and that was it.

yeah you ignored him

I didn't mean literally because you can't transmit saliva through the internet

yet

[Gardur]

I didn't ignore him either. I'm sure he ss'd the convo. ask for them.

I might have them around somewhere but I think it rather uncool to post conversations. In fact I didn't even mention the offer until someone else brought it up in forums.

[fiegi 8.0]

Does this mean ur gonna delvl ur warrior again to grief mistmoore?

[Nirgon]

Kingandis might have some competition

[LoliPops]

Amazing what 3 stolen fungi tunics do to a man.

[dontbanpls]

You're spitting in my face now trying to force the exact opposite to happen as a result of my efforts to prevent it from happening. You barely argued that anyone should have stayed in the guild. You are just as much at fault for the guild being disbanded as the other leaders of the the alliance guilds who tried to force a merge down my throat.

This was brought up in team speak and unanimously shot down by our officers. Instead of continuing to shut it down, every time I logged into TS after a short afk break you are back in TS discussing it, telling people it is futile to fight against it that people are just going to leave etc etc. Now you can't even respect that I was serious enough about not supporting this merge to disband the guild and you are doing everything you can to enable this merge.

You and Tala trying to lead this new guild when you guys sabotaged the old and convinced so many people that <Fresh> wasn't worth fighting for is sickening.