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Old 02-08-2016, 02:19 AM
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You understand that words- like europeans- evolve over time, right?
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Old 02-08-2016, 04:31 AM
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You understand that words- like europeans- evolve over time, right?
For instance, 1000 year ago... blah blah
You understand little about European history too! Wow, how do you manage?
Ah, back to the know your enemy and know yourself thing again. Ah well, God bless America, nonetheless. Once upon a time they use to teach stuff like history in schroul, how times have changed. Yes I'm sure modern liberal-brainwash teach Europeans all evolved in Europe. Kk, fight the power, bro /emote raises fist in salute.

Don't know history - check
Don't know world religions - check
Don't know liberalism - check
Don't know conservativism - check
Don't know constitutionalism - check
But hates all jews and like all guns - mkay
fiht teh pwr!

I'd say you are one of those disinformation agents of 0bama, but this is a game forum for crying out loud. Just torch one up, lean back in your chair, let the world just fly by in a haze. It's all good, right?
Actually I'm not even sure if you are really a Pagan... I've had really good Pagan friends, you don't seem to fit the bill. But interesting chatting with you in any case, theist.
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Old 02-08-2016, 12:20 PM
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pa·gan
ˈpāɡən/
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noun: pagan; plural noun: pagans

1.
a person holding religious beliefs other than those of the main world religions.



Poor fella doesn't know what a pagan is. It's like your brain is stuck in Niflheimr, eldhúsfífl.
Webster. Do they still use Webster in schroul? Prolly not, eh. That doesm't fit the re-edumacation thing I guess, they use more "modern" dictionaries hehe.
1; especially : a follower of a polytheistic religion (as in ancient Rome)

I didn't specify monotheist or polytheist. The way you put it though, atheist. I mean atheism is essentially a religion in it's own right, though not necessarily a pagan religion. Pagan would be such as Wiccan or Norse paganism such as followers of Oden etc. Those are primarily the ones I have come across IRL, some having been good friends actually, having sports parties, practicing martial arts together etc. These have quite boldly called themselves pagans with no ill will.

Looking deeper into the origins of the word, though, at least into antiquity which is more so defunct now, it originated in southern Europe to refer to any religions or theistic idea other than Christianity or Judaism - as pagan. So by your usage and your definition of the word, I think you are misrepresenting actual pagans, and simply using it as a slur to hate on certain groups regarding their beliefs with really none of your own. I think this does disservice not only to their beliefs but of those that actually hold pagan beliefs. But I don't generally call people out like that, regarding such beliefs, just repaying in kind here, rolling with the game in progress.
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Old 02-08-2016, 12:47 PM
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Pagan: people against good and niceness. Come on.
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Old 02-08-2016, 01:33 PM
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You implied that 'theist' would be an insult to me, which it isn't.
Nope, wasn't my intent. If I go to the trouble of trying to insult someone, I'll usually define it. Was just wondering where you would run with it.
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Pagan: people against good and niceness. Come on.
hah cute. Actually the word "nice" has evolved from it's original meaning, being someone dumb or ignorant.
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Old 02-08-2016, 03:00 PM
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As for that, actually I can "deny" that, or correct your error, anyway. I don't think you even know actually what a Jew is. Jew isn't a religion, it's a tribe, the tribe of Judah. One of 12 tribes, or the 12 sons of Jacob. You can't become a Jew, it's a lineage, a blood line, not a belief, not a religion, thus you can't really be of/in a Jewish sect unless you are a descendant of Judah.

Just like the other 11 tribes are not Jews, nor in or from a Jewish sect. It's just that the only clearly known descendants of Jacob are of the tribe of Judah, while the rest were scattered... well loosely saying scattered, more accurately - lost, as it's possible those tribes were not disbanded but most of them migrating to western and northern Europe as by some accounts say. Don't know if that's true, but interesting, which could make up certain nations there to this day which have interesting distinction and traditions to specific tribes.

No, technically, Christianity is a Cult, not a Jewish sect. Just the name itself should give you at least a subtle hint of that, which it was called that early in the first century. It's true that some of the early Christians attended the Synagogues (some), is recorded, but primarily those were the Jews for the most part. Later though, with the buildup to the Jewish-Roman war, Jewish Christians more so distanced themselves from synagogues so not to be caught up in the tensions of the day between Roman and Jew. More could be said, but meh you're probably already having a meltdown just by this info alone, total system shock. Don't laugh your ass off to hard, could cause kidney failure.

But oh well, there I go again, thumping you with my nasty-nasty knowledge of world history.
Daywolf, Christianity is not a Cult. Christ was the "refor-mation" of Judaism and the fulfillment of prophecy, it is an "evolved sect" of Judaism. Its Earliest known as Christendom, the term Christianity didn't come along til the modern era.
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Old 02-08-2016, 03:12 PM
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I mean atheism is essentially a religion in it's own right, though not necessarily a pagan religion.
Atheism is a religion like being well is a sickness, or abstinence is a sex position... Atheists don't agree with people who make assertions without proof, which is pretty much every assertion you've made in this entire thread. Atheists simply disagree with a "God exists" position. That doesn't infer that all Atheists have a "God doesn't exist" position (which would infer they have evidence) although for some people the absence of evidence denotes a high probability of being evidence of absence. They certainly don't have an inherent dogma that you need to conform to to be in the club.

If thats a religion then wow, you've got a pretty broad definition of religion.

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Old 02-08-2016, 03:22 PM
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Atheism is a religion like being well is a sickness, or abstinence is a sex position... Atheists don't agree with people who make assertions without proof, which is pretty much every assertion you've made in this entire thread. Atheists simply disagree with a "God exists" position. That doesn't infer that all Atheists have a "God doesn't exist" position (which would infer they have evidence) although for some people the absence of evidence denotes a high probability of being evidence of absence.

If thats a religion then wow, you've got a pretty broad definition of religion.

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So if this is the case, which I know it to be. Then what is the difference between an atheist and an agnostic?

I was always under the impression that an agnostic is not opposed to the idea of a god or an afterlife, but has just not been convinced that anyone knows whether that is true or not.
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Old 02-08-2016, 03:25 PM
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Old 02-08-2016, 03:50 PM
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So if this is the case, which I know it to be. Then what is the difference between an atheist and an agnostic?

I was always under the impression that an agnostic is not opposed to the idea of a god or an afterlife, but has just not been convinced that anyone knows whether that is true or not.
The fundamental difference between Atheism and Agnosticism is vast and really no different than that of Theism and Agnosticism. Atheism is the assertion of the non-existence of any form of divinity, while Theism is the assertion of the existence of some form of divinity. Agnosticism is admission of the impossibility of knowing either.
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